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Zappykins on 09 October 2013
attaboy said:
Zappykins said:
attaboy said:
Selnor's posts in this thread are making my nipples tingle.

That comment made me a wee bit jealous.  Are you taking candy from another?  (sniff)

Sorry. :(

While in reality my heart goes out to those that suffered from this.

But it is still awfully funny. But my jaw isn’t that prominent. Dims the lights, puts on music.

I do hope you are over 18.  Well over, I hope.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!
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Subie_Greg on 09 October 2013

At some point this needs to stop, though I know it won't.

I have been open about getting the Ps4, and have my reasons for sure. However, I don't need to sell anyone else on it. I've never needed other people liking what I like to secure myself on my own opinions. I'll say if you do, then do you. But it seems weak to me.

Why anyone feels the need to become Mr Sony/Microsoft and do the work of a billion dollar corporation for free is just silly. We've all done it at some point, most of the time not knowing we did it lol. But it always looks foolish no matter which company your supporting.

And I know it is done a lot in defense rather then offense. Someone comes in with flame bait or gives misinformation with intent or without. Maybe they just mistake your passion for a game or feature as you trashing their opinion. Who knows. But it happens far too often.

You can't even get past the first page in a thread without running into hate, bait, or lies from a wannabe salesman. It's just sad

We act as if unless you play on the same system as I do, we have nothing in common. But we share the same hobby/passion. The way we play is similar. And most of the games are on most if not all platforms.

So how don't we have something in common?

I'm not saying don't have an opinion and I know sometimes people will argue

But it's getting old and out of hand. And even attempting to read these boards is becoming increasingly frustrating



J_Allard on 09 October 2013
Subie_Greg said:
At some point this needs to stop, though I know it won't.

I have been open about getting the Ps4, and have my reasons for sure. However, I don't need to sell anyone else on it. I've never needed other people liking what I like to secure myself on my own opinions. I'll say if you do, then do you. But it seems weak to me.

Why anyone feels the need to become Mr Sony/Microsoft and do the work of a billion dollar corporation for free is just silly. We've all done it at some point, most of the time not knowing we did it lol. But it always looks foolish no matter which company your supporting.

And I know it is done a lot in defense rather then offense. Someone comes in with flame bait or gives misinformation with intent or without. Maybe they just mistake your passion for a game or feature as you trashing their opinion. Who knows. But it happens far too often.

You can't even get past the first page in a thread without running into hate, bait, or lies from a wannabe salesman. It's just sad

We act as if unless you play on the same system as I do, we have nothing in common. But we share the same hobby/passion. The way we play is similar. And most of the games are on most if not all platforms.

So how don't we have something in common?

I'm not saying don't have an opinion and I know sometimes people will argue

But it's getting old and out of hand. And even attempting to read these boards is becoming increasingly frustrating

Maybe people just like discussing things and you're looking way to deep into it so that you can launch yourself onto your high horse.

Or maybe you're right and you're the only one who can make pro/anti posts about these toys and not do it because you're insecure and need whatever blah blah yadda yadda.

Welcome to message boards.



Subie_Greg on 09 October 2013
J_Allard said:

Maybe people just like discussing things and you're looking way to deep into it so that you can launch yourself onto your high horse.

Or maybe you're right and you're the only one who can make pro/anti posts about these toys and not do it because you're insecure and need whatever blah blah yadda yadda.

Welcome to message boards.


Sure bud 

Got to go get back on my high horse

Ride like the wind bullseye (that's my high horse's name) 



attaboy on 09 October 2013
Subie_Greg said:
J_Allard said:

Maybe people just like discussing things and you're looking way to deep into it so that you can launch yourself onto your high horse.

Or maybe you're right and you're the only one who can make pro/anti posts about these toys and not do it because you're insecure and need whatever blah blah yadda yadda.

Welcome to message boards.


Sure bud 

Got to go get back on my high horse

Ride like the wind bullseye (that's my high horse's name) 


What is your horse high on?  Marijuana?  Does your horse like to party?  Can I party with your horse?



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Subie_Greg on 09 October 2013
attaboy said:
Subie_Greg said:
J_Allard said:

Maybe people just like discussing things and you're looking way to deep into it so that you can launch yourself onto your high horse.

Or maybe you're right and you're the only one who can make pro/anti posts about these toys and not do it because you're insecure and need whatever blah blah yadda yadda.

Welcome to message boards.


Sure bud 

Got to go get back on my high horse

Ride like the wind bullseye (that's my high horse's name) 


What is your horse high on?  Marijuana?  Does your horse like to party?  Can I party with your horse?

It'll party, but it'll cost ya

Pay to play ; )



Subie_Greg on 09 October 2013

double post



Logico15 on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
All these people saying adding price for a device people didn't ask for are completely silly statements.

It makes no sense.

Stick with PS4 if your happy with that. If you don't want to advance away from the previous generation that's fine. There is a console called PS4 which just upgrades graphics.

What I just read in the OP is Freaking amazing. Truly revolutionary.

Playing Killer Instinct, passing the controller to the next person and it automatically signs them in. No exiting said game, or logging one person out to log in another.

This is next gen. If you cant afford 100 pounds less than PS3 launched for, then good.

I don't want you holding back the progression of the Xbox One. Taking it out of the package and not including it with every Xbox would hold it back from a unified device perspective.

Very seriously, don't buy the Xbox One. Id rather you didn't ruin the next generation for all consoles. This isn't Xbox 360 .5

FANTASTIC ARTICLE.

AMAZING GENERATION AHEAD.

I love how biased you are -.- Evey microsoft article that you write on is nothing but positive comments, but when you write on playstation articles, you start leaving flame bait comments and negative stuff no matter what :/ Why are you calling people silly for not wanting a kinect? I never wanted a kinect with my xbox 360, and now they are making me pay for some device I never wanted and will never use? I'm basically paying $100+ for a device I will not use. I buy a gaming console primarily for gaming, everything else can be an additional ad-on. And to your thinking, having a kinect is next gen? Well than that makes PS4 and the steambox not in par with Xbone because It has no kinect. Now don't get me wrong  the kinect is an amazing piece of hardware. I just don't like how they are forcing us to buy a $100+ kinect that most core gamers will not use.



Logico15 on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
Zappykins said:
Xenostar said:
Its only a smart move if 3rd parties support it on mass, and i really doubt they will. But if they dont we will see a cheaper kinextless box next year, once they start seeing the stats of how few people use it.

Sorry, we will not be seeing a Kinectless Xbox One. 

You may have missed that part of the article as Kinect on the Xbox One is being supported in:

Dead Rising 3:box One Kinect integration allows zombies to respond to loud noises, bright lights and motion in the real world, along with the ability to grapple zombies and fling them off by shaking the controller.
Forza Motorsport 5: You’ll be able to use the head-tracking features again, which should work even better with the higher fidelity Kinect camera. Rumor has it that you’ll be able to do full Kinect enabled racing too.
Ryse Son Of Rome: Command legions using the all-new, high-fidelity Kinect. With the power of your voice you can command your surrounding units in battle in a strategic way to help defeat your foes, fire pilums or arrows, or block incoming attacks.
Killer Instinct: The game uses Kinect to automatically detect who is playing and load their settings.”Say there are eight of you and you just start sitting down. I know a lot of people are like, ah, the Kinect camera in the room, I’m scared! But the coolness of being able to sit down, the controller pairs itself to you when you pick it up. It knows your buttons. It knows how you like to play. It knows what characters you want to play.
“You can just say Start, and go. It knows who you are in the tournament bracket, so it will just automatically do the matches correctly.”
D4: D4 is a game from Swery65 and it actually uses Kinect to control the entire game if you so choose. It can also be controlled entirely with a controller, so it’s an option completely. Word is that the game is an absolute blast to play with Kinect and a breeze to use.
Crimson Dragon: This was originally a Kinect only game on the Xbox 360, but since has been switched over to the Xbox One and now includes regular controls, with the option for Kinect controls as well. Hand gestures for barrel rolls, and voice commands to control dragons are some of the options.
Battlefield 4: This is something quite a lot of people are looking forward to, head tracking in a FPS game would bring an entirely new level of immersion to the genre. Dice has said they are “looking into it”, but no official announcement has been made.
Call Of Duty Ghosts: Activision’s CEO, Eric Hirshberg, has confirmed that Call of Duty: Ghosts will integrate the new Kinect 2.0 voice commands feature. This is a first for a Call of Duty game.

And it's already been a great enhancement in Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Halo Anniversary, etc. of the original Kinect on the Xbox 360.  It's like a cell phone, you don't realize how much you use it, till you have one.


Yep. Theres consoles out there with no camera included.

Its last gen or 1 from this gen

360, PS3 and PS4.

Vita comes bundled, DS etc etc.

Its the modern era, not the 1990's.

If it is the modern era why does the Xbone look like a VCR?



Logico15 on 09 October 2013
endimion said:
Euphoria14 said:
landguy1 said:
Euphoria14 said:
I would buy an XBone if it didn't have Kinect. I personally don't find the camera to be worth $100-$150 of my money.

Some might, others won't.


I agree that if you look at Kinect as a part instead of part of the XB1 you come to the same conclusion a lot of the time.  The difference here is the same thing as the Bluray in the PS3 or the controller in the WiiU(which would have been fine if it had 4 controller suppoprt if you wanted more of them).  It is a part of the system.  The whole system was designed around it's capabilities.  People seem to get caught up in the "I don't need it to play games" part of the equation, which is identical to both of the items for the PS3/WiiU.  It is a way to enhance gaming or even provide a whole different kind of gaming(Motion) - unlike bluray that technically added nothing to gaming itself. Or it creates voice controls or the ability to use as a simple camera.

In the end, you are right though, if you can only see a camera, then thats all it is and you won't be playing on the XB1.

All I suggest for most people(even the people supporting it now) is to try it out in a real home where it is being used.  Base their opinions on something other than "it's a camera".    Most people hate spinach.  But most people like spinach dip.  If you look at just one ingredient or part, it just might not look good to you.

If it is a part of it then why could you buy the XBone, unplug the Kinect and never touch it again?

It is packaged in, yes, but it is not required at all. It is more like an optional input scheme that is forced upon you at time of purchase whether you would choose to use it or not.

 

The fact that it isn't required in any way now should warrant a Kinect-less SKU.

It will come. I have patience. I will grab it when that time comes.

you can only do it now because people asked for it....

 

pretty sure people that actually will do it (have it in the box) will have intempestive pop ups saying "this feature requires kinect please plug in the device and press continue or press back"

so yeah you will be able to do without it.... but you won't have access to all the features even outside of gaming and will be jumping around through a bunch of complicated menu just to not use something simple.... to me not having the kinect on XB1 will be simillar or even worst than not having the remote on a TV.... yeah sure you can still use it with the side buttons on the TV but it's way more fastidious... but if it's what they want, it's up to them... that's why they do have the option to leave the remote in the box.... same with kinect

Your remote control anology is incorrect. The Xbone and xbox interface are very similar. Many people including me found it really easy
to navigate the xbox 360 interface. Just becuase it's about to be a new gen, doesn't necessarily mean that the inteface will get harder to use. It would more than likely be easier to use.