A) So we clearly just disagree here. Plus Vita didn't average 120-140k (I have no idea where you took these numbers from, probably from your butt), but actually went over 220k in a week, which is good in my books and I won't agree that it was only mediocre. Because where does exactly "good" start for you? 300k? 500k? Christmas did more for Vita than the price cut and a steady flow of good games in Japan. I hope it's going to repeat this year, though this Christmas is bound to be worse for Vita.

B) So it's the reading comprehension then. Try reading my whole post again and maybe you'll see why you're mistaken.

You guys should read the original argument again. It was argued that it would be an "uphill battle" for WiiU soon, meaning that sales would increase week after week. Then somebody countered that by saying that was obvious, because holidays always do that. Then Zero said Vita showed that the holidays mean nothing...which is simply false, given the evidence already put forward. 

The original argument wasn't about seeing great sales, it was about seeing an increase. The holidays will naturally increase the sales. They would do that even without games.

A) Yes, it had 1 week of 220k and the rest of the holiday weeks were between 75k-140k, so before saying that im pulling numbers out of my ass, please check the charts for yourself. Then again, this is perhaps a bit too much to ask. 

B) Apart from that, the upcoming games are good, but don't look like real system sellers.   Ok, so you're saying none of the games are system sellers.

 Nobody has ever bought a console for Sonic ;) 3D Mario is ok, but this one is controversial and 3D Mario is always less important than 2D Mario, which as we all know didn't do that much so far. Your pretty much saying that these games are all as big as pikmin 3 which is laughable (Pikmin 3 being a niche game and mario being one of the most iconic franchises of gaming).

All in all these games alone wouldn't have a much bigger impact than Pikmin 3 had (one for one, not 3 for one ;) ). So again, you're saying that 3D world is as big as pikmin 3 (laughable) and sonic (this one is a wild card). You also failed to mention wii fit U, wii party U and wind waker HD.

Then you concluded by saying that the holiday season would be the one pushing hardware sales and software sales, not the software itself. The logic is very flawed, mario 3d world will receive a big boost because it is mario 3d world, if it were for example pikmin 3, it wouldn't get big holiday sales. Same thing with the hardware.

Vita sales weren't mediocre, they were really good and I hope they repeat this year, even though the Christmas lineup on Vita is much worse this time. Though Sony and Sony gamers are focusing on PS4 anyway, so I guess nothing they'd do on Vita would make much of a difference this year. And let's face it - holiday will be a much, much more important factor than the games, it's just the way it is, just look at the sales charts. Apart from that, the upcoming games are good, but don't look like real system sellers. Nobody has ever bought a console for Sonic ;) 3D Mario is ok, but this one is controversial and 3D Mario is always less important than 2D Mario, which as we all know didn't do that much so far. DK is a big question mark. All in all these games alone wouldn't have a much bigger impact than Pikmin 3 had (one for one, not 3 for one ;) ). I think Mario Kart is going to be the first system seller Wii U is going to have. This year's surge is going to be mainly thanks to the holiday period. It's going to be holiday pulling the HW ans SW sales, not the other way round.

Averaging 120k-140k during the holiday season is really good? Since when? 120-140k is and will always be mediocre during the holiday season unless it's a dead system. 

So you are saying that a AAA mario release will not boost the sales at all, wii party U will not boost the sales at all, Sonic lost world will not boost the sales at all, wii fit U will not boost the sales at all, etc. Heck, even Wind Waker HD bundle gave a 300% boost in the US to the wiiU.  Your logic is flawed, software SELLS hardware, it has always been that way and always will be. Vita proved this last holiday season like zero999 said because it's sales were indeed mediocre during the holiday season. Now, if the wiiU only sells 120-140k on a weekly average during the holidays, then I will take back everything that i've said here, but I highly doubt this will happen because wiiU has a number of big hardware sellers this holiday unlike the vita had last year unfortunetly. 

lol at the bolded. 3d mario less important than 2d mario? 3d world controversial? not after the last video. 3d mario and donkey kong wouldn't have a much bigger impact than pikmin 3? stoped reading.

T.H.I.S.

You guys should read the original argument again. It was argued that it would be an "uphill battle" for WiiU soon, meaning that sales would increase week after week. Then somebody countered that by saying that was obvious, because holidays always do that. Then Zero said Vita showed that the holidays mean nothing...which is simply false, given the evidence already put forward. 

The original argument wasn't about seeing great sales, it was about seeing an increase. The holidays will naturally increase the sales. They would do that even without games.