Scisca said:
benji232 said:
Scisca said:
benji232 said:
A) Yes, it had 1 week of 220k and the rest of the holiday weeks were between 75k-140k, so before saying that im pulling numbers out of my ass, please check the charts for yourself. Then again, this is perhaps a bit too much to ask.
B) Apart from that, the upcoming games are good, but don't look like real system sellers. Ok, so you're saying none of the games are system sellers.
Nobody has ever bought a console for Sonic ;) 3D Mario is ok, but this one is controversial and 3D Mario is always less important than 2D Mario, which as we all know didn't do that much so far. Your pretty much saying that these games are all as big as pikmin 3 which is laughable (Pikmin 3 being a niche game and mario being one of the most iconic franchises of gaming).
All in all these games alone wouldn't have a much bigger impact than Pikmin 3 had (one for one, not 3 for one ;) ). So again, you're saying that 3D world is as big as pikmin 3 (laughable) and sonic (this one is a wild card). You also failed to mention wii fit U, wii party U and wind waker HD.
Then you concluded by saying that the holiday season would be the one pushing hardware sales and software sales, not the software itself. The logic is very flawed, mario 3d world will receive a big boost because it is mario 3d world, if it were for example pikmin 3, it wouldn't get big holiday sales. Same thing with the hardware.
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A) Have you really seen the chart or are you just bluffing? Cause I have and what you are saying is still wrong. It had another week at over 190k and never fell to 75k. The lowest if fell to was almost 140k. The lowest Christmas week. That is good.
B) Better! Much better! I'm proud. So as you see - I believe not a single of these games is a system seller and that all they would do is what Pikmin 3 did. A small, short-timed boost. And yes, even though Mario 3D is Mario and will sell decent numbers, I question its ability to move hardware in significant numbers. It would do better than Pikmin 3, but nothing spectacular. Don't forget that Pikmin 3 was covered in hype from long before the release of Wii U, while this 3D Mario is controversial and quite a bit of a let-down so far compared to the Galaxy games. So yes, I'm going to repeat it. The boost we're going to see will mostly come due to the Christmas season. Games will play the role of the sidekick and Christmas boost will help SW sales more than SW will help HW sales.
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A) Ok, so let's see:
Nov 10th: 72k
Nov 17th:114k
Nov 24th:221k
Dec 1st:117k
Dec 8th:140k
Dec 15th:159k
Dec 22nd:193k
Dec 29th:140k
Divide all that by 8 equals a grand 144k which is what I pretty much said it was averaging. You said the lowest it fell was 140k, but im seeing 72k, 117k, 114k. Unless you think that the holiday season is only december? November doesn't count for the vita?
B) Il stop arguing there... It is pointless, you have your opinion and I have mine. So, I will leave it at that.
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A) You take Nov. 10th as the first week which is clearly abusing it, since if you take a look at the charts for other platforms you'll see this is not when the Christmas effect starts. The Vita chart looks exactly like the PS3 chart - it raises and falls the same weeks and Nov. 10 was actually a decrease from the previous week for both consoles, which proves you are wrong including this week. If you analise the chart you can easily see the first week of the Christmas increase is Nov. 17.
B) The difference is I know what I've said. And as I've said in the other post - do you seriously believe Wii U would suddenly reach HW sales on a 250k a week level for over a month (which I take for granted it will) with these games alone? I think it wouldn't be remotely close. The increase would be smaller and for a much shorter period of time. The increase due to Christmas is going to be much bigger than the increase due to these games. It will be the more important factor. Not only one, but easily the more important one.
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Again, let's take a look at these charts. On week of Nov.10th.
PS3: 327k (So, you're telling me 327k is a regular week for PS3 since there is no christmas boost?)
Xbox360: 401k (Now granted, it had Halo 4, but still.)
3DS: 387k (Again, I doubt this is a regular 3ds week)
Wii: 97k (Again, same thing)
Even the VITA itself had the christmas effect on Nov.10th with 72k units sold, because it was averaging around 35k all year long.
The reason I took Nov.10th is because there IS the holiday boost on that week, you just want to ignore a very mediocre holiday week for the vita? That's not how it works my good sir. You can't cherrypick a week.
