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Forums - Gaming - Instead of buying 4BONE, why not buy a Wii U this holiday?

Because WiiU doesn't have next gen graphixxx and powahhhhh! Ain't no body got time for games when you can stare at the graphixxx and the powahhhh of Killzone and the glorious shine of Ryse! Who needs a bulky, not-hd, useless, childish gamepad when you have an amazing, innovating touch pad (or for only $300 you can get a Vita and use it as a gamepad....)!



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happydolphin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
happydolphin said:

I was answering ClassicGamingWhizz, not answering OP. He answered that in his eyes, he values 3 things and I answered to him.

Nevertheless, it's quite known that computers are ubiquitous. Default mice and keyboards are a dime a dozen, you can even use your TV to view your pc gaming content, so the monitor argument applies to the PS4/bone as well then. Also, the PC is compatible with the 360 controller so this mouse/keyboard/monitor argument is no good.

Ah, classic case of false dilemma.

Care to elaborate?

Sure, a false dilemma is when you say something like "I can sit here and talk to you on VGChartz or I can go to school." It's a logical falacy because I'm sure we can come up with many other things I can do. For example, I can go fly a kite. By my original statement I misrepresented my options.

Now, in your case you are saying the only reasons ClassicGamingWhiz has not to buy a Wii U are the ones he listed therefore a PC is suitable for him. But as I have already done there could be more reasons than that. Just because he hasn't explicitly stated any other reasons doesn't mean there isnt anymore



Max King of the Wild said:

Sure, a false dilemma is when you say something like "I can sit here and talk to you on VGChartz or I can go to school." It's a logical falacy because I'm sure we can come up with many other things I can do. For example, I can go fly a kite. By my original statement I misrepresented my options.

Now, in your case you are saying the only reasons ClassicGamingWhiz has not to buy a Wii U are the ones he listed therefore a PC is suitable for him. But as I have already done there could be more reasons than that. Just because he hasn't explicitly stated any other reasons doesn't mean there isnt anymore

I understand, but since those are the reasons he stated, I assumed those were his strongest arguments. You can't blame me for it. Otherwise, why did he not mention the actual differentiators?

And to flip your argument on its head, you are also giving him quite the benefit of the doubt.



Well because 1, a PC's graphics shit all over the PS4 and Xbox One. So if you want graphics and third party support, you will go PC. Going PC has never been as easy as it is this gen and it'll get even easier when steam gets their shit 'rollin.

In the end it will be cheaper. If you want to build a cheap PC there is this thing called Black Friday(take advantage of the online equivalent)



happydolphin said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Sure, a false dilemma is when you say something like "I can sit here and talk to you on VGChartz or I can go to school." It's a logical falacy because I'm sure we can come up with many other things I can do. For example, I can go fly a kite. By my original statement I misrepresented my options.

Now, in your case you are saying the only reasons ClassicGamingWhiz has not to buy a Wii U are the ones he listed therefore a PC is suitable for him. But as I have already done there could be more reasons than that. Just because he hasn't explicitly stated any other reasons doesn't mean there isnt anymore

I understand, but since those are the reasons he stated, I assumed those were his strongest arguments. You can't blame me for it. Otherwise, why did he not mention the actual differentiators?

And to flip your argument on its head, you are also giving him quite the benefit of the doubt.

I don't blame you for it. it's a fine counter argument. But you cant expect him not having a reason to not get a PC. Especially since he was only responding to the OP which is Ps4 vs X1 vs WiiU. He may have a completely different reason why PC isnt suitable. Since he hasn't responded we kind of need to give him the benefit of the doubt until he responds. After he responds and doesnt counter your argument then we can determine if PC is his best option



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The problem here is that people stop playing games and start paying for interactive movies. When I play a NIntendo games, I start playing immediately and the plot develop while advancing through the stages. Last month I finished Mass Effect 3, and I found 1 hour gameplay in the first 3 hours of the game. Kids developing their gamer skills in the last decade (2000-2010) have grown up with this kind of games, so they think this games are the highest bar to reach in terms of critics. Old people that were never into video games are reviewing games, they were called to he industry because of needs, and because the new games appeals to them like movies not games. When gamers try Nintendo games it is just pure gameplay, fun and joy. You feel happy, your imagination start open. The sequels of those modern games change in the plot but the gameplay is the same, what does that tell you? Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Donkey Kong have been changing all the way, the story, gameplay and characters.
I am not saying you have to like NIntendo games, but I am a 28 years old man, married with lots of responsibilities, and enjoy those games more than anything in the gaming industry. I have tried the PSP, my bro had the PS3, the XBOX has the same games as the PS3, and none have make me feel happy like I use my free time to rest and recover from all the bullshit this world throw at us during our lives. Check out youtube how many old grown gamers are playing Nintendo games? You should at least be asking yourself, why is that?



Angelv577 said:
I will wait until mario kart 8 released to finally decide whether or not it's the time to buy a Wii U. It looks like Wii U have good multiplatform releases this holiday season but the games are not selling well so there's always uncertainty about the future support with this console, and yeah, who am i kidding, multiplatform releases look the same as current gen and i already have a ps3, so for now ps4 will be my choice for the holiday season as a long term investment.


don't wory about that, the Gamecube didn't sell well at all, and it had the best games of that generation according to the mutiplatform gamers. Nintendo is not stupid, they know there are loyal Nintendo fans that deserve at least 5 years of games. 



Max King of the Wild said:

I don't blame you for it. it's a fine counter argument. But you cant expect him not having a reason to not get a PC. Especially since he was only responding to the OP which is Ps4 vs X1 vs WiiU. He may have a completely different reason why PC isnt suitable. Since he hasn't responded we kind of need to give him the benefit of the doubt until he responds. After he responds and doesnt counter your argument then we can determine if PC is his best option

I could live with that.



Noctis23 said: 

And no one is adding the extra $50+ for a HDD when the price of the Wii U is being talked about.

Funny how that works.

I have no HDD so far, and I downloaded every demo so far, have a lot of patches and some downloadable titles. I get the main games as retail-copies though, but if you look at numbers most people do that so far.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
no thank you

i want a next gen console, with pretty graphics but more importante i want third party games from devs that are in the top league like rockstar , bethesda and others.

Since then is Bethesda top league (Rockstar is, no doubt about that)? And moer importantly: which next-gen console has Rockstar or Bethesda-games?



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