Yep, makes sense. Actually that article was more on track then any i have read.

Either way both will have their advantages.  I got a Wii U and will be getting a Xbox One. Sony funked me many, many, many times.  So no sony products ever again for me. I bought enough through my life and never with a happy turn out. That's just my personal experience.

Now I understand.  You come into a thread say someone does know know something.  Cannot prove an ounce of your statement.  Cannot even use good old google like you did in another thread to back up your claim.  Are you afraid if you attempt so show anywhere that I am wrong you will only make yourself look foolish.  At least show one part of a statement I made that is wrong.  Why even say someone is ignorant if a subject if you are to ignorant to even know.  So I am calling you out.  If you know something than state it if not maybe you should just sit on the sideline.

Yes, its an assumption, can you even debate it or not.  I asked you a question, what is your thoughts or is it to much trouble for you.  Its the thread to complex or should I bring it down a level so you can understand.

Oh nos hes calling me out!!! After I called you out??? derp

Again it's not up to me to disprove the B.S. you pulled out of your ass. It's up to you to prove it.

The part that YOU bolded that YOU said in a post on this every page. Right up there^^^ Already called you out for that. Can you prove your statement???

Here is the differece.  If you would have stated, this line is incorrect, can you provide proof, then I would be more than happy to do so.  Instead you stated I did not know what I was talking about, which gives the impression that you do.  Its then up to you to find anything I stated as false.  Hell, I have no clue which part that I stated that you consider incorrect since you did not even have the balls to suggest one line.  If you cannot prove any statement is false then why don't you pick a line or sentence or paragraph where I am wrong about my claim on Azure.  Maybe you can muster up that much effort.

As to the bolded part, that was a opinion based on my knowledge of development.  Its what people call a Theory.  You called out nothing since you did not debate the point.  Sometimes I do feel I am talking to 12 year olds who have no clue about debating a point.  You either have a different opinion, a revelant point of view or information to support your statements.  If not than you contribute nothing.

First you say I don't have the balls to suggest one line. Then you confirm I did?

I am aware what you said was a theory, assumptions and opinions... not actual facts. And I appreciate you acknowledge now that they are just that... assumptions. I already knew that. I looked for the information to check your statements and when I found none, called you out about it.

You see, I used to disprove peoples statements. But when I did, I never got any results. They simply move on and continue spreading whatever they were spreading. 

So now instead of taking time disproving, I simply ask them to prove it. And they can't never prove it because the information isn't out there for them to do that

@BOlded - Keep up with me here.  You claimed I do not know anything about Azure, guess what line I am talking about.

@2nd Bolded - This has nothing to do with me.  I asked you to prove I am wrong since this was your claim.  I care little about the past you had only about what you claimed against me.  You can give me excuses all you want but until you can prove a line that I have spoken concerning the Azure infrastructure, network and cloud service as beomg incorrect, then I would believe you have no clue what I am talking about.

smh

I never said you were correct or incorrect. Simply that you didn't have the required information to make the statements and pass them as fact. That you didn't know. You understand yet?

You know nothing more then whats publicly known. And since there is information the public doesn't know... you don't know either. So you made statements that you tried to pass as facts and later backtracked and called theory's.

And that's all I ask for really. Either back up the statements or admit you can't prove it. You did admit, so I am ok with that. 

And you can try and insult and talk down to me if you'd like. But it doesn't get under my skin, been on the internet long enough to not fall for a rookie tactic like that. 

It's confirmation of your lack of knowledge honestly

Come on man, you are making excuses.  This is not what you stated.  Let me quote it for you to jog your memory.  Here is what you highlighted from my Post

" A cloud service is more than just a bunch of servers, the software that runs it is just as important and takes years to perfect.  Just forgetting about everything esle that makes a complete cloud service ignores the complexity of such a system.  Combine that software for distributed apps with a whole lot of servers gives MS an advantage in this space that is greater at this time than Sony. "

So tell me what is inaccurate about that statement.  because here is your reply.

"'m not going to get long winded in this. I am not going to pick apart your entire post

I'll just simply say you have no information to back up the claims you pull from your rear. None. Zero. Nada

You spent a whole bunch of time talking about Microsoft and Azure, which you clearly know very little about. And I'll have to assume you know even less about Sony's service since you didn't mention it at all. Even though you can say they are at a disadvantage : )

Overall you don't have anywhere near the required information to make these statements... because that information isn't out there right now"

You are telling me there is no information to back up what I claims.  You stated very clearly I have no clue how Azure works but you cannot refute one thing I stated.  What you do not get is that I know what it takes to get a cloud based infrastructure up and running.  I know about how complex the software that manages that part which is clearly what I state.  I know that Sony is not well vested in this technology and from their breach in security, they did a lot of things no sane admin would ever allow.  If you actually would have stated where do you get your info.  Then I would have been more than happy to give you the source of info I am using to form my Opinion.  Instead you stated I clearly know very little about Azure which you have not been able to find one link to disprove anything I stated.

As for me insulting you, well you threw the first shot.  Maybe if you started off asking instead of insulting, we would not be at this point.  I am not trying to get underneath your skin.  I want you to back up your claim that I do not know what I am talking about.  You made the claim so what part part of the Azure service I know little about.  You keep waffling, trying to deflect the question.  

Just to get to the bottom of this whole crap, I will give you one statement.  Here is something I was reading a while ago which is where I am basing my case on Sony expertise.  Now that I gave you one source, maybe you can give me one source where I am wrong.

"Web hosting and cloud hosting provider Rackspace announced Friday in an earnings call it recently signed an agreement with Sony PlayStation in which its “developers and architects will be consulting and supporting the PlayStation team with their OpenStack private cloud deployment.”

What do you think this means??  Could it mean that Sony is looking for the expertise from Rackspace as consultants to help them with their cloud based software using OpenStack.  What exactly is OpenStack and what does it do.  Hmmm, maybe you should do your own digging to find out whether you know a subject enough to even question whether someone else does.  I am going to just leave you with that nugget.  

Here is a link to MS Orleans Cloud based development platform.  This is how MS can create a distributed streaming service that can leverage thousand of servers thus providig the compute capability to increase speed and performance for a streaming service. 

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/orleans/

Here is a case study on Azure providing the backbone for Samsung and their Smart TV services that span 120 countries.  Its a decent read and talks about how Azure can provide resources on a dime 

http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?casestudyid=710000003068

Here is a link on Azure and how it works.  Go down to the media and High Performance Computing part to understand how MS can leverage their service to increase the quality and probably the image sreamed to a user.  Also take note of the Paas which is probably what would be used instead of the Saas that currently Gaikai uses.

http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/net/fundamentals/intro-to-windows-azure/

There you go some reading for you.  This is the information I use to base my opinion on why MS has an advantage in this area. This is why just stating the number of servers is not enough, you have to include the capability of Azure and what MS can leverage with their service.  I will leave you with this small amount of reading but if you cannot be bother then thats fine but do not waste my time telling me about my knowledge of what Azure can do.

I haven't ignored a single thing you've said. I've corrected you.

You corrected me on things I wasn't saying. I restated my point...over and over and over. You've danced around it, continuing an argument about something I didn't say. I call you on that, saying you're obviously not reading the thread because you're correcting me on things I'm not saying. You deny that, making implications that I'm a fanboy or that I can't understand your point because I'm blinded by bias. I pull out your posts again, showing how you're not ackowledging me. You proceed to quote someone else, saying that I said "MS is pulling the wool over our eyes", when I never said that...making this huge post about how I had an initial point and then swerved off into many other points that you were addressing.

And you couldn't even point out these other points I was making.

I point out how you are now confirming that you can't even keep track of what is being said. You say 'oh, you didn't say it but that doesn't matter'.

So yeah...better luck painting someone else as a fanboy. Cuz you did a shit job with it against me. 

I guess the only real thing you can argue, the only valid argument piece against my point, was that Sony may not have enough datacenters. This is the only valid argument against mine because my point was that MS doesn't actually need 300k servers for xb1. I proposed they could get by with far less, and I still believe that's true. Which stems right from my point that Sony doesn't need to have as much invested as MS to provide the service they are advertising...as opposed to MS who is advertising a whole lot more.

You could argue that I simply don't know enough....which you have. But it still follows that Sony might have enough for what they need, evidenced by the fact that Gaikai already won many awards and has run well for two years already....on top of which that Sony has continued investing in it.

So, unless you can prove that Sony's service is incompetant when it hasn't even released yet, there is really no further argument to be made.....unless we want to continue making theories and assumptions, which will simply end up as a waste of both of our time.

Dude the conversation is over. You already said you were just throwing out theory's, not facts

The underlined part is my point in this paragraph. 

Inaccurate or "WRONG" was never my point. You don't know/have the information about what Sony is or has in order to say they are at a disadvantage. 

You keep saying prove I'm correct or incorrect. 

It's not one or the other

Just simply that YOU don't have the necessary information to make claims as fact or to back them up.

You don't have the necessary information. Do you understand now???

That's all