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What model of the PICA200 series do you think is in the 3DS?

2008=Vertex Performence 4... 18 19.78%
 
2010 = Vertex Performence, the heck if I know 28 30.77%
 
See results 45 49.45%
 
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Tom3k on 29 September 2013
Kaizar said:
Tom3k said:
Conina said:
Kaizar said:

And it's not 7 years old, the tech demo floating around on youtube is from 2006, but the 3DS is clearly not going to be using that model, when there is a 2010 & 2008 model. Even the model shown from 2008 that was more than twice as powerful. 2006 version could push 15.3 million polygons per second at 200mhz (400mhz max clock).

The one shown in 2008 could push 40.7 million polygons per second at half the rate, 100mhz. Clock speed is unimportant to say the least. Not that it matters though, because i'm not too impressed with Tegra anymore after seeing what the Pica200 can potentially do and DEFINITELY what the 3DS can do.

The 2008 model seems to be 600 MHz or so max clock frequency

While the 2010 model seems to be 1 GHz max clock

But what model do you think is used in the 3DS?

(models: 2006 & 2008 & 2010 & 2012)

And what do you think about everything else I've mention in the OP?

Can you provide some URLs for the 2008, 2010 and 2012 models of the Pica200?

Why aren't they to find on the dmprof-website?

http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_pica_200/

http://www.dmprof.com/e_news/e_press/372/

Because they only exist in Kaizar's looney world... The rest of us must be idiots, since we expect that actual manufacturer knows what he's producing.


But the PICA200 is a series. It's NOT just one GPU.

PICA is a series, PICA200 is a model. Seriously, it's all on manufacturers site, READ IT!

Kaizar said:

The ARM11 is said to be like 1 GHz 2 core which is better then the ARM9 268 MHz 2 core. The Vita has AMD arm vortex 9 or something like that which is confirm to be 1 GHz 4 core.

The problem with the Vita CPU is that it's AMD, so an advantage in cores & clock speed & newer model doesn't seem to be enough to do anything against a way weaker & older "intel CPU" with less cores, because the "intel" CPU will still process so much more LOL. So AMD CPUs are known as the least quality CPUs in the industry, which is probably why they are the cheapest 3rd party CPUs to use.

After this much nonsense I'm amazed there's a single person on this site that can actually take you seriously. You don't understand basic terms/technologies... 



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zarx on 30 September 2013

No way of knowing as Nintendo won't release specs. The closest thing to actual specs as far as I know was the IGN leak of the dev kit specs http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/09/21/new-nintendo-3ds-hardware-info. We know from later X-Rays of the chips that the RAM was eventually doubled to 128MB and 6MB VRAM. So other specs may have changed since then as well. But from the leak we know that the GPU was clocked at a rather odd 133MHZ, which would lead me to believe that it is most likely based of the PICA200 Light rather than the full model. Aimed primarily at the mobile and embedded space and designed for low power consumption it seems like a decent fit. The Light model tops out at 166MHz which would explain the odd 133MHz spec of the 3DS dev kit. the Specs for the Light are Vertex performance: Maximum 12.7M polygons/sec (at 166MHz). Also the PICA200 uses a proprietary shader design which offers many advanced features including polygon subdivision (aka tesselation) which allows in theory devs to achieve much smoother and detailed models than it's raw specs would suggest, it also supports features such as normal mapping that allow devs to add more perceived detail. Given Nintenso's recent trend of utilizing tried and tested semiconductor tech with a focus on efficiency rather than raw power it's pretty safe to assume they they didn't go for the latest design available at the time.

Also the VITA doesn't have and AMD CPU silly it's an ARM core and AMD don't make them. Vita's sepcs aren't hard to find it's a Quad-core (one is reserved for the OS) ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore with a dynamic clock rate up to 2GHz (usually much lower) due to power and heat concerns, and PowerVR SGX543MP4+ GPU which is a slightly modified quad "core" variant of the PowerVR Series5XT wich a tri-core variant powers devices such as the iPhone 5. The Vita version has a variable clock rate ajustable by developers.Along with 512MB RAM + 128MB VRAM.



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DieAppleDie on 30 September 2013

Seriously Kaizar dude....mehen
i...i respect you for the love and the passion you put towards Nintendo but...mehen...dude....just stop putting bullshit figures out of your ass
your making yourself slim favor....



biglittlesps on 30 September 2013

Nintendo never releases their hardware specifications because they are weak in comparison to others.



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FrancisNobleman on 30 September 2013

By looking at resident evil revelations, I'm gonna say 2010. The game has lots of effects only seen on modern hardware, but again, it could be the 2008.



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 30 September 2013
biglittlesps said:
Nintendo never releases their hardware specifications because they are weak in comparison to others.


They stopped doing it cause no one gives a shit



brendude13 on 30 September 2013
zorg1000 said:
brendude13 said:
It's not the model you think it is.


These arent the droids ur looking for

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JoeTheBro on 30 September 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
biglittlesps said:
Nintendo never releases their hardware specifications because they are weak in comparison to others.


They stopped doing it cause no one gives a shit

I think it's more that people care too much about numbers. If the 3DS had a number 5 in the specs and the Vita had a number 15 there, people would jump to the conclusion vita is 200% more powerful without actually understanding the technology.



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KHlover on 30 September 2013

Oh wow, Kaizar never fails to amaze me. He's like the Nintendo version of our favorite Ninja member :)



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