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MDMAlliance said:
Goatseye said:
MDMAlliance said:

No... Americans are definitely worse than Europeans when it comes to literacy on politics.  

Proof. I want to see it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/time-magazine-covers-in-the-us-vs-the-rest-of-the-world

What's up with that?



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Goatseye said:
MDMAlliance said:
Goatseye said:

Proof. I want to see it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/time-magazine-covers-in-the-us-vs-the-rest-of-the-world

What's up with that?

It's proof that most Americans don't really care about global politics (or even politics in general).  Whenver there is something politics related, it probably has more to do with the economy than anything else.  More specifically, anti-Socialist/Communist propaganda.



Oh sure, if something major medically happened...id have to cut my entertainment to near nothing to make payments, but it would still work.

Rent: 275/mo
Household stuff: 50/mo
Utilities: 50/mo
Gas: 125/mo
Insurance: 60/mo
Car repairs: 150/mo
Food: 175/mo
Phone: 50/mo
Entertainment: 250/mo
1185 a month. Even get to put plenty in savings considering none of the categories ever add to that much. 450 of the computer was funded by selling a laptop that was bought years ago. Games arent very expensive online. Go to the bars on special nights with like $1 drinks...etc.

Where you say I spend my money in more or less a dumb way...all my friends see me as an uber conservative person cause I budget and say no to them if I have no money left for the month.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

leedlelee said:
Baalzamon said:
I make like 12 to 15k a year yet make ends meet with my only "subsidy" being that I pay a low tax rate. I still buy games, expensive phones, build new computers, go to the bars with friends, yet apparently somebody of my status needs food stamps and every other subsidy?

Where in the US do you live???

If you don't mind me asking...

With his mom.



Baalzamon said:
Oh sure, if something major medically happened...id have to cut my entertainment to near nothing to make payments, but it would still work.

Rent: 275/mo
Household stuff: 50/mo
Utilities: 50/mo
Gas: 125/mo
Insurance: 60/mo
Car repairs: 150/mo
Food: 175/mo
Phone: 50/mo
Entertainment: 250/mo
1185 a month. Even get to put plenty in savings considering none of the categories ever add to that much. 450 of the computer was funded by selling a laptop that was bought years ago. Games arent very expensive online. Go to the bars on special nights with like $1 drinks...etc.

Where you say I spend my money in more or less a dumb way...all my friends see me as an uber conservative person cause I budget and say no to them if I have no money left for the month.

$1185 a month is still more than $12k a year, and that is with your parents and the government subsidising your health insurance and education.  Also your rent is dirt cheap compared to much of the country, even with roommates.  I'm not sure which services fall under rent vs utilites for you, but regardless $325 minus water, nat gas, electricity, internet, and possibly cable means you are barely paying anything for the actual domicile.  Your auto insurance is also significantly cheaper than the average for your state.  Even with those factors, you have little to no headroom in the case of emergencies or unforseen expenses.  Your entertainment budget isn't enough to cover your deductible if you meet it, and that's before factoring in you might not be able to work due to this malady.

I didn't say that you spent your money in a dumb way.  It seems to work for your specific situation.  However what is foolish is to suggest that anyone can live on $12k while also spending a significant amount on unnecessary things without any sort of subsidies or safety net.



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Baalzamon said:
Oh sure, if something major medically happened...id have to cut my entertainment to near nothing to make payments, but it would still work.

Rent: 275/mo
Household stuff: 50/mo
Utilities: 50/mo
Gas: 125/mo
Insurance: 60/mo
Car repairs: 150/mo
Food: 175/mo
Phone: 50/mo
Entertainment: 250/mo
1185 a month. Even get to put plenty in savings considering none of the categories ever add to that much. 450 of the computer was funded by selling a laptop that was bought years ago. Games arent very expensive online. Go to the bars on special nights with like $1 drinks...etc.

Where you say I spend my money in more or less a dumb way...all my friends see me as an uber conservative person cause I budget and say no to them if I have no money left for the month.

$1185 is just a 1 bedroom rent money for a metropolitan area in MD. Plus the people that get assistance have kids. Put that into account.



Define socialism. The United States might not be socialist, but it is certainly collectivist and corporatist/fascist in nature. Government has its hand in almost every market, and has its special interest groups reaching into my pocket. That's just as bad as socialism, if not worst. If you want an example of a liberal economy look at Hong Kong.



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sc94597 said:
Define socialism. The United States might not be socialist, but it is certainly collectivist and corporatist/fascist in nature. Government has its hand in almost every market, and has its special interest groups reaching into my pocket. That's just as bad as socialism, if not worst. If you want an example of a liberal economy look at Hong Kong.

How's Hong Kong economy?



baalzamon you have my respect. i dont go to college but i make alittle less then you do and i do fine so far. as long as i dont go crazy buying games and books i usually keep a good chunk of what i make.
i live in turley, ok
before taxs and health insurance i make about 1468.8
after taxes and health insurance its about 1088 per month

rent about $215
food $60 to $80
gas $60 to $70
car payment $225
cred card payment $40 dont have to pay this much but i want to
day to day cash $200 for random stuff like going to the movies, eating out, i could put most of this in savings but like having some cash on hand
storage shed rent $15
car insurance about $51
internet $28
so about $924 payed out of1088 and about 164 going to checking account per month while being wasteful with my cash. could put around 384 into checking/ savings if i wanted to.