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Baalzamon said:
I make like 12 to 15k a year yet make ends meet with my only "subsidy" being that I pay a low tax rate. I still buy games, expensive phones, build new computers, go to the bars with friends, yet apparently somebody of my status needs food stamps and every other subsidy?

From your other posts it sounds like you do need subsidies, except they come from your parents.  Do you pay for health insurance?  Rent?  Car/Insurance?  Or if you owned a home there would be a whole host of regular and unforseen expenses.  Spending such a seemingly large chunk on entertainment/electronics would not be prudent if you didn't have someone to fall back on.

Also, I don't know about your scholarships in particular, but most come from the federal or state governments, many others come from Universities funded by the government.



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Lets start with personal expenses. The only thing I dont pay for is my 5000 dollar deductible insurance. If I go to the doctors for a migraine...I pay 175 dollars out of my pocket. Part of my 1200 dollar a month budget includes 150 a month being put aside for car repairs. It wouldnt be called living on my own if my parents paid for that stuff...thatd be a funny joke though. Im able to do that stuff because I know whrn to spend and when to save

as for college...as indicated my parents have helped with about 2000 for my entire schooling. My 1st year was paid by the state (yes, funded by govt but was available to anybody in top half of grade). 2nd and 3ed year I got a 2000 presidential scholarship...which is proba ly funded by private donations that go into a school controlled fund. The 4th year I got a 1000 scholarship from a private accounting firm (will probably get the same this year). Also, I get my education credit for taxes up to 1000 more tham I paid in taxes...also available to everybody.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

And you clearly dont understand what j spend. Cause im able to do all that on 200 to 250 a month on emtertainment budget.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

And that is why our country has issues. People dont understand something as simple as priorities and think a comfy lifestgle is impossible on their imcome when that is absolute bullcrap. Please dont offend me agajn saying my parents are subsidizing my life when they arent. If it wasnt for their shit insurance...I wouldnt have any.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

That is health insurance btw. I pay for my car insurance obviously



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

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Is socialism endangered? Haha are you kidding? Freedom and liberty are endangered, not socialism. It's easier to sign up for welfare than it is to start your own business in America.



Marks said:
Is socialism endangered? Haha are you kidding? Freedom and liberty are endangered, not socialism. It's easier to sign up for welfare than it is to start your own business in America.


It almost sounds like you're saying "Socialism" and "Freedom and liberty" are opposites.  Also, starting your own business isn't harder to do that signing up for welfare.  You can start your own business pretty easily.



Baalzamon said:
Lets start with personal expenses. The only thing I dont pay for is my 5000 dollar deductible insurance. If I go to the doctors for a migraine...I pay 175 dollars out of my pocket. Part of my 1200 dollar a month budget includes 150 a month being put aside for car repairs. It wouldnt be called living on my own if my parents paid for that stuff...thatd be a funny joke though. Im able to do that stuff because I know whrn to spend and when to save

as for college...as indicated my parents have helped with about 2000 for my entire schooling. My 1st year was paid by the state (yes, funded by govt but was available to anybody in top half of grade). 2nd and 3ed year I got a 2000 presidential scholarship...which is proba ly funded by private donations that go into a school controlled fund. The 4th year I got a 1000 scholarship from a private accounting firm (will probably get the same this year). Also, I get my education credit for taxes up to 1000 more tham I paid in taxes...also available to everybody.

So between money put away for car repairs and your entertainment budget you are already at ~$4800 a year.  If you were actually paying for your health insurance and had any moderately major medical issue, there goes your whole salary for the year.  That's before you even pay for food, gas, rent, car insurance, cell phone, etc.

So tell me again how easy it is to live on $12k with no subsidies and still drop money on expensive cell phones, new computers, and alcohol.



http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/the-f-35-a-weapon-that-costs-more-than-australia/72454/

 

I would rather take a few less of these planes, then take the $39 billion dollar food stamp cut.  My family was a recipent of foodstamps when I was younger, and without it, it woulda have been difficult to find a good meal.  



The USA has been socialist since the 1930s,  its going no where.  Socialism works, regardless of some may say.  And I agree with the one poster.  Americans don't know what socialism really is.  

This pretty much sums up how stupid the American public is about Socialism