"The CPU contained within the PS4 is running stock speeds, 1.6ghz compared to Microsofts 1.75 after an upclock - 150mhz does not make up for the different in number of CUs, and (aptly ignored by Albert) the difference in ROP units - hence why even with the 150mhz upclock, the Xbox One is still way behind in terms of raw power - To see just how little difference 150mhz makes, go into your bios and bump your clock speed up to be 150mhz faster, you will see framerates climb barely 2fps at best - most modern CPUs clock to at least 400mhz higher than stock as an average, with some people bumping that to over 900mhz.

But seriously, before you try and tell me im wrong, he is comparing 1.6 to 1.75 and claiming its 10% faster, asside from being factually wrong (10% would be 1.76ghz), it also compares the cpus on the most basic of levels, which is a stupid thing to do, even more so given that theyre APUS - compare a 2ghz celeron to a 2ghz pentium to see why.

Last but not least adding up the ddr3 and esram speeds to get a higher number is universally seen as a retarded pr stunt by those with half a brain because theoretical peaks for different ram types DO NOT COMBINE - just like if you put two 3ghz xeons in a server, it does NOT mean that the server is now running at 6ghz, its running at 3ghz with additional cores - adding ddr3 and the tiny space allotted by esram does not work, even for "on paper" results - you cannot fill the 8gb of ddr3 with the esram fast enough without the esram being bottlednecked, esram could not be used for a large majority of game resources, where as GDDR5 can be used for just about anything at the cost of slightly higher latency."

Thats cool if hes actually giving out information that we didnt know to correct people.

But he needs to stop talking about the performance differnce between X1 and PS4, Im sure he knows his beans about X1 but he knows fuck all about PS4 they wont have PS4 devkits, they can highlight every trick there pulling to maximize performance, but doesnt mean Sony dont have similar tricks as well to maximize there spec. 

Developers that have had there hands on both have said there is a noticable performance difference when they start developing on them.

Actually, he doesn't ignore it.  He addressed it.  Each CU gets a 6% speed increase, not simply the entire GPU with the frequency increase.  So while there are fewer CUs those CUs operate faster than the PS4's.  When 12 CUs are operating at 6% greater speed than the PS4, that equates into a 72% speed improvement.

Early in that thread (not that post) he states near 10%.  He has also stated before greater than 9%.  If we want to get specific it's 9.375%    No, he also talks on a deeper level, about how the the Xbox One's CPU also has a 30GB/s transfer rate between the CPU and memory,   A 50% speed improvement over the PS4.

You missed the part where he also specified that the eSRAM's speed was 204GB/s.  That still happens to be 16% faster than the GDDR5 memory in the PS4.  Don't assume my argument is that 32MB is the same as 8GB, but I wonder what memory speed is necessary in order for a modern GPU to adequately process a 1920x1080 image without bottlenecking or taking a performance hit.  The eSRAM is used both as a buffer for the DDR memory, as well as a cache to temporarily hold data that's needed quickly.

What developers?  People keep making statements like that with no proof, yet Penello (who proofed everything he stated) keeps getting gang bullied by likely biased Gaffers.  Some call that passion, I call it what it is:  a complete lack of respect and decorum.  Shames me as a gamer.  It's why people like Cerny are staying away from gamers and forums.

What developers?  People keep making statements like that with no proof, yet Penello (who proofed everything he stated) keeps getting gang bullied by likely biased Gaffers.  Some call that passion, I call it what it is:  a complete lack of respect and decorum.  Shames me as a gamer.  It's why people like Cerny are staying away from gamers and forums.

He ran his current facts by someone at the company that has a very indepth knowledge of the console.  As for those engineers could you provide a link where they benchmarked the Xbox One along with a picture of the development unit in their possession?  Yeah I thought so.

He actually did not prove anything...he cited an anonymous source of some "Technical Fellow." 

He posted factually incoherent information and was rightfully called out for it. Go read the thread and quit sipping the koolaid.

As to developers confirming a performance advantage for PS4, a simple google search is all that is required. I mean, really, are you so devoted to living in the dark that you won't actively seek out information for yourself?

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/07/xbox_one_developer_concedes_that_ps4_is_more_powerful

http://www.gamechup.com/war-thunder-dev-ps4-gpu-is-40-more-powerful-than-xbox-one-gpu/

http://www.edge-online.com/news/ps4-is-more-powerful-than-xbox-one-on-paper-but-microsoft-will-catch-up-says-avalanche-studios/