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Legend11 on 10 September 2013
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5


There's just a bunch of clowns arguing against what Albert said.  I really get a kick out of the ones demanding to know what the PS4's CPU final clock rate is for example when looking at his numbers yet they had no problems with the people that basically pulled "40%" or "50%" performance difference between the two consoles out of the air without knowing the final clock rates for either of them.  There's been so much FUD spread and eager fanboys eating it up because it's what they wanted to hear.



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TheSting on 10 September 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Xenostar said:
For someone that says specs dont matter, hes so desperate to prove that its almost equal in power.



My god, give it a break.


Hes right though

Not when it's used as a lying selling point. I've heard some ppl around me use it. I tell them you're not going to see a huge leap anyway. Sony knows people will pre order just because the system is supposedly the most powerful. I assure everyone that both systems will be fun. Why can't people stop arguing about stupid shit and believe that fact.



Legend11 on 10 September 2013
Xenostar said:
Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!


It has a lot more features and they really are different beasts in that regard.  For example if you took a PS4 out of the box and hooked it up and then said "PS4 on" what would happen?  What about if you wanted to talk to someone on your friends list, would saying "PS4 skype Iluvyermom" to your PS4 open a window and contact your friend?  What about if you wanted to exercise with a game would a PS4 version be able to tell you which muscles are currently being stressed or tell what your heart rate currently is by looking at you?  There are many things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 simply can't so it's not as simple as saying one is better because neither one is better at everything.



DJEVOLVE on 10 September 2013
iamdeath said:
endimion said:
It's funny how people try so hard to make him the bad guy comparing specs. To me he is actually proving his point saying that design is more relevant than raw specs. So yeah specs are not important even after is spec explanation. He makes that very clear.


It is also very clear the ps4 has more power, no amount of spin changes that. ou can also argue design with the ps4, it is widely known it is very well designed from a bandwidth and development perspective.


You have no clue. It's very clear every posts you make is very one sided and usually I just laugh. LOL



Xenostar on 10 September 2013
Legend11 said:
Xenostar said:
Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!


It has a lot more features and they really are different beasts in that regard.  For example if you took a PS4 out of the box and hooked it up and then said "PS4 on" what would happen?  What about if you wanted to talk to someone on your friends list, would saying "PS4 skype Iluvyermom" to your PS4 open a window and contact your friend?  What about if you wanted to exercise with a game would a PS4 version be able to tell you which muscles are currently being stressed or tell what your heart rate currently is by looking at you?  There are many things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 simply can't so it's not as simple as saying one is better because neither one is better at everything.


Ill take the one thats better at games, than the one thats better at voice controls :)



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TheSting on 10 September 2013
Xenostar said:
Legend11 said:
Xenostar said:
Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!


It has a lot more features and they really are different beasts in that regard.  For example if you took a PS4 out of the box and hooked it up and then said "PS4 on" what would happen?  What about if you wanted to talk to someone on your friends list, would saying "PS4 skype Iluvyermom" to your PS4 open a window and contact your friend?  What about if you wanted to exercise with a game would a PS4 version be able to tell you which muscles are currently being stressed or tell what your heart rate currently is by looking at you?  There are many things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 simply can't so it's not as simple as saying one is better because neither one is better at everything.


Ill take the one thats better at games, than the one thats better at voice controls :)

That's strictly opinion



Turkish on 10 September 2013
Legend11 said:
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5


There's just a bunch of clowns arguing against what Albert said.  I really get a kick out of the ones demanding to know what the PS4's CPU final clock rate is for example when looking at his numbers yet they had no problems with the people that basically pulled "40%" or "50%" performance difference between the two consoles out of the air without knowing the final clock rates for either of them.  There's been so much FUD spread and eager fanboys eating it up because it's what they wanted to hear.


Amongst those "clowns" are engineers who flat out call him out on his bullshit. According to Albert the 360 has more bandwith than Xbox one. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80953213&postcount=224



Legend11 on 10 September 2013
Xenostar said:
Legend11 said:
Xenostar said:
Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!


It has a lot more features and they really are different beasts in that regard.  For example if you took a PS4 out of the box and hooked it up and then said "PS4 on" what would happen?  What about if you wanted to talk to someone on your friends list, would saying "PS4 skype Iluvyermom" to your PS4 open a window and contact your friend?  What about if you wanted to exercise with a game would a PS4 version be able to tell you which muscles are currently being stressed or tell what your heart rate currently is by looking at you?  There are many things the Xbox One can do that the PS4 simply can't so it's not as simple as saying one is better because neither one is better at everything.


Ill take the one thats better at games, than the one thats better at voice controls :)


So you're saying that PS4 is better at dance or fitness games for example?  What about quirky indie games that take advantage of features the Xbox One has that PS4 either can't do as well or can't do at all?  Apparently one of the best HD games shown so far is Titanfall and that features graphics that while good aren't pushing the system by any means yet it's completely owning the PS4 lineup in terms of awards and media attention.



dsgrue3 on 10 September 2013

Tried to peddle bullshit; got nailed for it. Thread is hilarious.



Legend11 on 10 September 2013
Turkish said:
Legend11 said:
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5


There's just a bunch of clowns arguing against what Albert said.  I really get a kick out of the ones demanding to know what the PS4's CPU final clock rate is for example when looking at his numbers yet they had no problems with the people that basically pulled "40%" or "50%" performance difference between the two consoles out of the air without knowing the final clock rates for either of them.  There's been so much FUD spread and eager fanboys eating it up because it's what they wanted to hear.


Amongst those "clowns" are engineers who flat out call him out on his bullshit. According to Albert the 360 has more bandwith than Xbox one. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80953213&postcount=224


He ran his current facts by someone at the company that has a very indepth knowledge of the console.  As for those engineers could you provide a link where they benchmarked the Xbox One along with a picture of the development unit in their possession?  Yeah I thought so.