While TV animation I agree with, Film? What are we using as base? 'Dark Knight' only or is everything else included? Because Spiderman 3 is better than all other recently DC films.

That said, yes Marvel do have successful character but at the moment, the writers have no idea what they are doing with them, Bendis X-men is nigh on drivel. He can't write X-men to save his life. And Hickman Avengers, he's trying to make them the Justice League of Marvel and it's just silly, Avengers as meant to have a sense of humanity about them as there's noen of that in it at all. Thank god for Brian Wood.

On topic, yeah, having conversations over who would win in fights between comic characters is one I put up with as well, to keep people happy I usually say 'Batman always wins.' 

Michael Keatons Batman, Christopher reeves Superman (except 3), Nolan trilogy, Watchmen (DC affiliated), Man of Steel. V For Vendetta was DC affiliated, Legend of Extrodinary Gentleman. I dunno, thats just me.

Yeah, the Avengers battle was pretty much Thor all thor and Hulk. Even the thor could've taken the bomb out of the atmosphere just as fast or faster than Iron Man.

Well one guy is a living god with a hammer that destroys pretty much everything and the Hulk is pretty much invincible and the strongest thing in the (Marvel) universe.

You don't need some doofus in a robot suit or a guy who ... throws a shield (not even going to mention Mr. Arrows).

I am still with the topic, I was just responding Kasz stating that nobody else can afford the space station or the halls of Justice. Lex Luthor can't stand aliens or anything superior to himself, which is why he cannot stand Superman or any super being, really. If he wanted to, he could fund the things needed to help keep the JLA run though. My point still stands that the JLA cases could easily be solved without Batman. As I said to someone else before, theres already a detective in the group, who just so happens to be a forensic scientist, battle tacticians, interrogator, tech support and shapreshifter for infiltration. Everything Batman has ever done, they've done with ease.

Lex Luthor didn't need to touch Superman, he made him poison himself to death with sun energy. LOL The guy is a f'n evil genius. He figured out the chemistry of Supermans genetic makeup and came up with a way to recreate him. If that isn't scary, I don't know what is. Batman is tame compared.

Yep. In the same way if you watched the animated series, Superman is severely dumbed down to make room for the powers of all the other superheroes. I've seen giant vines hold him down. I called bullshit everytime. I have to ask where his laser eye vision or super strength went. Hell, he could freeze the plant grip with his breath and break it in half.

Who?  J'onn J'onzz!?  You humans are going to learn to quit putting your faith in these aliens who are the last of their kind.  When they turn on you and start taking over the world, what are you going to do?  Come running to Batman to save your ass, that's what! But don't worry.  Batman already has that covered.

Batman had a plan to turn Superman's skin invisible with modified Kryptonite and also drive Superman crazy with sun energy! Read Tower of Babel (which the animated film Justice League Doom was adapted from).  Batman has EVERYONE'S number. 

Plus, he's not the smartest guy in the DCU.  Guys like Mr. Terrific are smarter.  Batman's in everybody's head.  There are guys that could take him down in seconds but they're not going to try because they doubt.  In their mind, Batman has already won.  Batman is like a man in a cage with a lion.  He's got everyone trained.