The Batman relevance argument.

[The Fury]

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Soundwave said:

Well one guy is a living god with a hammer that destroys pretty much everything and the Hulk is pretty much invincible and the strongest thing in the (Marvel) universe.

You don't need some doofus in a robot suit or a guy who ... throws a shield (not even going to mention Mr. Arrows).

Yep. In the same way if you watched the animated series, Superman is severely dumbed down to make room for the powers of all the other superheroes. I've seen giant vines hold him down. I called bullshit everytime. I have to ask where his laser eye vision or super strength went. Hell, he could freeze the plant grip with his breath and break it in half.

I think what many writers in whatever form try and protray is that Superman while heroic, still lacks judgement on situations at times, he doesn't think as Batman would. Because of his powers he is reckless.

Hulk cannot be relied on, Thor is not human and is immortal so his actions are reckless but even then throwing your hammer at something doesn't save people. Hulk doesn't fit with the Avengers for years, only because of the film is he back in the Avengers, and even then that is Bruce Banner.

What you said here is why I don't like an almighty 'Superman' in the Avengers, it's because they don't fit, Sentry didn't fit and neither does Hyperion. Even the Justice League seems silly at times with Superman in it but this has been shown time and again by Superman's differing powers in whatever medium. Although, I haven't really read anything in DCU since the 'reset'.