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@Soriku

I clearly haven't, wanna elaborate?



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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>. which i can garuntee your results would be that they hate it cause its on the competition console but wont admiit it. its like asking a nintendo fanboy what he thinks bout MGS4. it wouldnt be pretty.


Not true, I dare you to start a thread asking PS360 owner's view on SSBB or SMG.

Go ahead, and see what happens.

I have faith in people to tell exactly what they think of a truly good game.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Mummelmann said:
I feel like Wiifit is the new Eyetoy, short lasting fun with much less appeal than it initially would be attributed.
I've never seen a franchise such as this really take off like some expect it too, and I don't see it now either.
And aiming a game at folks who generally don't play games is a bold, and frankly, rather too risky a move as I see it. We've seen upon launch of "core" titles that the hardware boosts are really insignificant, and this signals to me that most of the Wii owners are in fact not non-gamer casuals, and that the machine has sold a whole lot less to this demographic than many hope/think.
So, that is why I don't have much faith in Wiifit, even in uber-casual Japan the sales are dropping quite a bit every week after the holidays, and the figures will be quite small within 2-3 months time if the trend continues.
And compared to SMG (and SSBB's first week sales), sales weren't really spectacular to begin with, moving a lot slower than both those games in the same period.

but wii fit is a million seller in Japan, and still sellin. From what i have heard it seems its pretty suply constrained. I agree Like it is a new Eyetoy, but the difference is, you have got Nintendo pioneering it. Personaly i think sony did not push the eyetoy enough, and thus fell short of what it could become. The truth is its not the technology that drives the sales of a peripheral/console, it the content, thatse why wiifit has the potential to be the new Wii sports of this gen. Wiifit interest me, not because of the exercise, simply becaues it looks fun, period. If the great sofware is there, people will pick it up.

 Now by seeing this thread its obvious its not for everybody, but rather than people saying they are not interested in it and moving on, you see the people go out thier way to show thier dislike, just like griffins meltdown earlier.which shows a serious biased and insecurity. I wonder if people reacted like this about the eye toy, because that was very casual oriented.



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kingofwale said:
>. which i can garuntee your results would be that they hate it cause its on the competition console but wont admiit it. its like asking a nintendo fanboy what he thinks bout MGS4. it wouldnt be pretty.


Not true, I dare you to start a thread asking PS360 owner's view on SSBB or SMG.

Go ahead, and see what happens.

I have faith in people to tell exactly what they think of a truly good game.

We already have threads about SSBB & SMG and unlike you we enjoy haveing PS3 and 360 owners give constructive opinions.  Not everyone will agree if a game is good or not, but debate is rarely a bad thing.

I think it is funny that you take offence to the fact that we believe that non wii owners would be much more likely to complian about WiiFit, when you state that all Wii owners would say it is great just because they own a Wii.  That seems just a bit hypocritical to me.

And one final thing scince you still don't seem to get what Bod was saying.  This is a free and open thread.  Unless you are ioi, you have no right to say who can and can't post in threads.  So stop trying to act like you run the place.  You sound more like a spoiled child when you complain that Wii owners are posting in your thread.

If you really want a thread where no one will disagree with you, then you really should go to a Playstation or Xbox only forum.  But if you want to have a valid discusion on softwear and hardwear, then this is a good place to be.  If you can follow the rules.



>I think it is funny that you take offence to the fact that we believe that non wii owners would be much more likely to complian about WiiFit, when you state that all Wii owners would say it is great just because they own a Wii.


nope, I took offense when people claim automatically that PS360 owners will HATE Wiifit. Generalization is mostly driven by ignorance, and I can't stand ignorance.

Oh, I don't remember saying that Wii owners will say it's great, I implied that I don't need to hear what Wii owners say, because it's more likely tainted by fanboyism. I want to see it from an 'outsider's view', hence I asked for non Wii-owners.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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kingofwale said:
Bodhesatva said:

Wales, and several other people in this thread: this is a nice trick, but it's treading thin ice. It is, essentially, an "I don't like Wii Fit, and think it's pretty dumb, but no Wii owners allowed here! No one can respond unless they agree with me!" thread.

New rule that I have just made up: you cannot tell other people or groups not to respond to you. You can choose not to talk to them, or anything else you like, but a "No PS3/Wii/Girls allowed" thread isn't constructive. If you don't like something feel free to say so, but you shouldn't tell others that they cannot respond to your posts.


>No one can respond unless they agree with me!" thread.

agree with me? I simply as for people who OWN PS360 to respond, Unless you are implying everyone who owns PS360 has a same opinion as me? If that's the case, why would I even ask in the first place?

If you read this thread, there are people who like it, there are people who dislike it, and there are people who would buy a Wii just for Wiifit. and Yes, all of those are part of "I don't have a Wii" crowd, NOT the "I have to agree with KingofWale" crowd. Hope that's clear.

 

And secondly, Since I have no rule to actually ban anybody from my thread, it's hardly a typical forum 'rule'. I simply asked nicely for those who own a Wii to not respond. Some still did, and I accept the survey of those with 'thanks' as long as they give a reasonable explanation of their attitude toward the subject.


I can politely ask fat people why they're so ugly, but the fact that I "ask nicely" doesn't change the fact that the message itself isn't nice. You told people to go away. That isn't nice no matter how politely you ask.

While you are technically correct that you didn't explicitly insist that everyone agree with you in this thread, the original post was clearly constructed as such; you said you didn't like Wii Fit, then said that everyone who owns a Wii can't respond. While a few people may (and do) like Wii Fit even if they don't own a Wii, the obvious effect of the construction you've made here was to eliminate most or all of the people who disagree with your position. It would be like starting a pro-life thread, explaining why pro-choice people are evil and wrong, and then saying liberals can't respond; there will be a few conservative pro-choicers, but clearly the purpose of such a thread would be to fuel anti-abortion sentiment.

Again, don't tell others whether they can or cannot respond to your opinions. You're welcome to simply ignore people -- I do that with several crazies that I shan't name (if you look through my post history, you'll see I've basically never responded to a few of the most active posters here, and that isn't a coincidence).

 



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kingofwale said:
>I think it is funny that you take offence to the fact that we believe that non wii owners would be much more likely to complian about WiiFit, when you state that all Wii owners would say it is great just because they own a Wii.


nope, I took offense when people claim automatically that PS360 owners will HATE Wiifit. Generalization is mostly driven by ignorance, and I can't stand ignorance.

You still don't see your own hyprocicy.  From your very first post in this thread:

kingofwale said:
>The purpose of this is for PS3/PS2/Xbox/Xbox360 owner's view on Wiifit, and hopefully untainted by fanboyism. I know how Wii owners feel about Wiifit,

 So you know how all Wii owners feell about WiiFit?  I would call that a generalization.

kingofwale said:
Oh, I don't remember saying that Wii owners will say it's great, I implied that I don't need to hear what Wii owners say, because it's more likely tainted by fanboyism. I want to see it from an 'outsider's view', hence I asked for non Wii-owners.

And we all know that all 360 and PS3 fans would never be tainted by fanboyism.  The only reason you want to hear from them is that they are more likely to agree with your veiw point.



I'm a PS3 owner and I think the balance board is a good idea but i'd say that the bundled mini games will only provide so much entertainment and will eventually become boring, just like Wii sports. However, a snowboarding game (not a minigame) or maybe an adventure game with balance board elements would be great.



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Soriku said:
You know if you say they can't come they'll come anyway?

Oh yeah, thread PHAILS.

Btw, I don't like Wii Fit THAT much, but that's because it doesn't have many good games on it yet =/ Plus I won't buy it until the price goes down a bit.

 Soriku - then u mighthve to wait 7 years min. to buy it. IMO, it gonna be sold out like the Wii is for at least a year!!! U know the Americans are obsessed with getting slim



JHawkNH said:
kingofwale said:
>I think it is funny that you take offence to the fact that we believe that non wii owners would be much more likely to complian about WiiFit, when you state that all Wii owners would say it is great just because they own a Wii.


nope, I took offense when people claim automatically that PS360 owners will HATE Wiifit. Generalization is mostly driven by ignorance, and I can't stand ignorance.

You still don't see your own hyprocicy. From your very first post in this thread:

kingofwale said:
>The purpose of this is for PS3/PS2/Xbox/Xbox360 owner's view on Wiifit, and hopefully untainted by fanboyism. I know how Wii owners feel about Wiifit,

So you know how all Wii owners feell about WiiFit? I would call that a generalization.

kingofwale said:
Oh, I don't remember saying that Wii owners will say it's great, I implied that I don't need to hear what Wii owners say, because it's more likely tainted by fanboyism. I want to see it from an 'outsider's view', hence I asked for non Wii-owners.

And we all know that all 360 and PS3 fans would never be tainted by fanboyism. The only reason you want to hear from them is that they are more likely to agree with your veiw point.

  This was so beautifully done. I applaud you.