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Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
gameplay is way too assisted/automated. I know it's done to drive the story, but this is overkill and borderline interactive movie.


Why is interactive movie a bad thing?  Adding interactivity to movies adds some great opportunities for unique storytelling.


Because I paid $70 for it. I can't justify that cost when all it requires me to do is push a button to turn the page.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Because I'd assume you haven't.  Very creative use of the controller to draw you into the experience.  Multiple endings depending on your actions as well.  If you just keep mashing X you'll be staring at the first screen for quite a while.  I'm assuming more of the same here. 



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JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
gameplay is way too assisted/automated. I know it's done to drive the story, but this is overkill and borderline interactive movie.


Why is interactive movie a bad thing?  Adding interactivity to movies adds some great opportunities for unique storytelling.


Because I paid $70 for it. I can't justify that cost when all it requires me to do is push a button to turn the page.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Because I'd assume you haven't.  Very creative use of the controller to draw you into the experience.  Multiple endings depending on your actions as well.  If you just keep mashing X you'll be staring at the first screen for quite a while.  I'm assuming more of the same here. 

I haven't played it, but I've watched the gameplay interactive movie on youtube. Again, I can't justify $70 where I am required to turn pages all game long.

Take the Last of Us for example. It has cinematic style of combat, yet the player is still in full control while the story develops. This is the direction games need to be going.

Btw, you're taking the push button to proceed too literal. I understand there's some walking to do before the sequences begin.



Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
gameplay is way too assisted/automated. I know it's done to drive the story, but this is overkill and borderline interactive movie.


Why is interactive movie a bad thing?  Adding interactivity to movies adds some great opportunities for unique storytelling.


Because I paid $70 for it. I can't justify that cost when all it requires me to do is push a button to turn the page.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Because I'd assume you haven't.  Very creative use of the controller to draw you into the experience.  Multiple endings depending on your actions as well.  If you just keep mashing X you'll be staring at the first screen for quite a while.  I'm assuming more of the same here. 

I haven't played it, but I've watched the gameplay interactive movie on youtube. Again, I can't justify $70 where I am required to turn pages all game long.

Take the Last of Us for example. It has cinematic style of combat, yet the player is still in full control while the story develops. This is the direction games need to be going.

Btw, you're taking the push button to proceed too literal. I understand there's some walking to do before the sequences begin.


You clearly haven't played it or watched much of it. Some sequences are indeed QTEs.  Others are some of the more interesting uses of a controller I've seen in any game that does a great job of connecting you to the action in ways a traditional narrative can't.  And lucky for you, you don't even have to pay $70 for it, because it only costs $20 now.  So, I'd suggest checking the game out.  At the very least you'll have an educated opinion, and you might actually like it.



Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
JWeinCom said:
Fifaguy360 said:
gameplay is way too assisted/automated. I know it's done to drive the story, but this is overkill and borderline interactive movie.


Why is interactive movie a bad thing?  Adding interactivity to movies adds some great opportunities for unique storytelling.


Because I paid $70 for it. I can't justify that cost when all it requires me to do is push a button to turn the page.

Have you played Heavy Rain?  Because I'd assume you haven't.  Very creative use of the controller to draw you into the experience.  Multiple endings depending on your actions as well.  If you just keep mashing X you'll be staring at the first screen for quite a while.  I'm assuming more of the same here. 

I haven't played it, but I've watched the gameplay interactive movie on youtube. Again, I can't justify $70 where I am required to turn pages all game long.

Take the Last of Us for example. It has cinematic style of combat, yet the player is still in full control while the story develops. This is the direction games need to be going.

Btw, you're taking the push button to proceed too literal. I understand there's some walking to do before the sequences begin.

huh? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about... Heavy Rain was one of the best gaming experiences I've had this gen or any gen... I never felt like I wasn't fully in control. Actually, the cool part about Heavy Rain, every decision I made I felt like I had full control over the outcome... If a character died, the story moved forward... It was so refreshing.. The gameplay was very much existent, and you clearly have never played it otherwise you woudln't make such ignorant comments.. 



Quantic Dream is one of those teams where you cannot listen to what everyone says. You must definitely play the game for yoruself.



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Raider84 said:

huh? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about... Heavy Rain was one of the best gaming experiences I've had this gen or any gen... I never felt like I wasn't fully in control. Actually, the cool part about Heavy Rain, every decision I made I felt like I had full control over the outcome... If a character died, the story moved forward... It was so refreshing.. The gameplay was very much existent, and you clearly have never played it otherwise you woudln't make such ignorant comments.. 

People have different preferences.

I, for example, couldn't stand Heavy Rain, I felt like it was two hours of my life wasted before I just gave up on it.

Obviously Beyond will not be for me.



Ohh it's a day one for me. Heavy Rain is in my top ten games this generation, very special experience it was. I actually really liked Move controls in it, made me really hooked and more engaged into the game than most most games with traditional pad controls. Even though they changed the control scheme I'm still very interested in the story that Cage came up with if everything else fails.

And yeah, Beyond is my bet for this generation's graphics king.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

Like FifaGuy said, I think one should call it for what it is, an interactive movie. Nothing wrong with being that, but it bothers me if some people are defending its gameplay too heavily, instead of just defending the right for an interactive movie to exist.

Anyway, I am quite hyped for this game. I love the theme with the soul thing. It will be very interesting what they do of it. And hopefully you care for the characters like the OP claims, that's critical in a game like this.

At the very least I will buy Beyond when it has dropped in price.



curl-6 said:
The gameplay looks terrible frankly, like its on autopilot with nowhere near enough player involvement.
Reminds me of Heavy Rain, which I despised.
Definitely not for me.


Looks like Heavy Rain? Sweeeeeet Im in :D one of the best games this generation.



curl-6 said:
Raider84 said:

huh? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about... Heavy Rain was one of the best gaming experiences I've had this gen or any gen... I never felt like I wasn't fully in control. Actually, the cool part about Heavy Rain, every decision I made I felt like I had full control over the outcome... If a character died, the story moved forward... It was so refreshing.. The gameplay was very much existent, and you clearly have never played it otherwise you woudln't make such ignorant comments.. 

People have different preferences.

I, for example, couldn't stand Heavy Rain, I felt like it was two hours of my life wasted before I just gave up on it.

Obviously Beyond will not be for me.


Oh thats why, It doesnt start getting good until after about 2 hours, I actually nearly gave up aswell but good things come to those who wait.