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carlos710 said:

And DMC 4 may sell more than past DMC games worldwide (thanks to new x360 sales), but its likely going to be the worst rated DMC game ever on reviews. When developers make their games multiplatform instead of taking 100% advantage of a console's hardware the game loses quality quickly.


 Did you even look up the reviews before you post out of your arse? It is doing better than DMC3 at the moment and will likely end up with about the same percentage 85%, making it joint second best in the series and way ahead of DMC2.



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DMeisterJ said:
@ Avinash_Tyagi

I wasn't using Famitsu's numbers, I was using Sources preliminary numbers.
And why would you bring PS3 hardware in here, when we're talking about Devil May Cry?

 Because it was bundled, and Source's data is just prliminary remember how you told me that



 

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tombi123 said:
carlos710 said:

And DMC 4 may sell more than past DMC games worldwide (thanks to new x360 sales), but its likely going to be the worst rated DMC game ever on reviews. When developers make their games multiplatform instead of taking 100% advantage of a console's hardware the game loses quality quickly.


Did you even look up the reviews before you post out of your arse? It is doing better than DMC3 at the moment and will likely end of with about the same percentage 85%, making it joint second best in the series and way ahead of DMC2.


 So you agree than DMC 2 having poor reviews affected the sales of DMC 3, thus making any "DMC 4 d0minati0n" argument worthless?



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DMeisterJ said:
@ FishyJoe

I lose more and more faith in you as a mod each passing day.

Because he hasnt't banned you for your trolling in the rest of the forum??

 

 

DMC 3 was the 3rd game of the series in the same console. DMC 4 it's the first HD DMC. It was a failure in terms of profits IMO, since it sold way less than the first DMC on the ps2 while (likely) having way bigger development costs.


You're forgeting it was released to a much smaller userbase...

 

You are forgetting that nobody cares about attach rates.

 

Try to learn what this means: PROFIT


Early PS2 development costs were huge as well so I doubt capcom are going to be disappointed. DMC4 strikes me as a game with average development costs, possibly slightly higher due to having to develop on two consoles. How is 200,000 in one week in one region a bad thing? I guarantee its better than Capcom were anticipating. It'll probably have 400-500,000 sales during its first week on both platforms (so pushing a million), almost definately break even point for a game like DMC.


NOT EVEN CLOSE to about 20 million for an HD game like now.

 

And DMC 4 may sell more than past DMC games worldwide (thanks to new x360 sales), but its likely going to be the worst rated DMC game ever on reviews. When developers make their games multiplatform instead of taking 100% advantage of a console's hardware the game loses quality quickly.


When did quality enter the conversation? A games quality does NOT define its sales, a hell of a lot of PS2 games sold a million copies with sub par reviews, likewise a hell of a lot of games sold hardly anythin despite excellent reviews.


So you are fine with paying more money to get less quality -i guess i don't care about what you think then.

 

But still the development costs are atleast 2.5-3 times bigger than what they were 5 years ago.


Woah youre good at making assumptions. I NEVER said I was happy paying more for less, you originally discussed profit, NOT quality and thus I responded. Now that you realise youre point about profit was null, you move onto something else. Well done.


Any proof about an average ps2 game being over 20 million?


 ..I'm struggling to follow you here. Please, keep to one topic at the time, youre jumping all over the place. First its profit, then sales, then development cost? Never did I quote a cost, nor did I suggest an "Average" game cost that much. I said that early PS2 development was huge...Im gonna end this discussion now before you invent some other random things ive said.



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Bladeneo said:
carlos710 said:
Bladeneo said:
carlos710 said:
Bladeneo said:
carlos710 said:
Bladeneo said:
carlos710 said:
disolitude said:
carlos710 said:
DMeisterJ said:
@ FishyJoe

I lose more and more faith in you as a mod each passing day.

Because he hasnt't banned you for your trolling in the rest of the forum??

 

 

DMC 3 was the 3rd game of the series in the same console. DMC 4 it's the first HD DMC. It was a failure in terms of profits IMO, since it sold way less than the first DMC on the ps2 while (likely) having way bigger development costs.


You're forgeting it was released to a much smaller userbase...

 

You are forgetting that nobody cares about attach rates.

 

Try to learn what this means: PROFIT


Early PS2 development costs were huge as well so I doubt capcom are going to be disappointed. DMC4 strikes me as a game with average development costs, possibly slightly higher due to having to develop on two consoles. How is 200,000 in one week in one region a bad thing? I guarantee its better than Capcom were anticipating. It'll probably have 400-500,000 sales during its first week on both platforms (so pushing a million), almost definately break even point for a game like DMC.


NOT EVEN CLOSE to about 20 million for an HD game like now.

 

And DMC 4 may sell more than past DMC games worldwide (thanks to new x360 sales), but its likely going to be the worst rated DMC game ever on reviews. When developers make their games multiplatform instead of taking 100% advantage of a console's hardware the game loses quality quickly.


When did quality enter the conversation? A games quality does NOT define its sales, a hell of a lot of PS2 games sold a million copies with sub par reviews, likewise a hell of a lot of games sold hardly anythin despite excellent reviews.


So you are fine with paying more money to get less quality -i guess i don't care about what you think then.

 

But still the development costs are atleast 2.5-3 times bigger than what they were 5 years ago.


Woah youre good at making assumptions. I NEVER said I was happy paying more for less, you originally discussed profit, NOT quality and thus I responded. Now that you realise youre point about profit was null, you move onto something else. Well done.


Any proof about an average ps2 game being over 20 million?


..I'm struggling to follow you here. Please, keep to one topic at the time, youre jumping all over the place. First its profit, then sales, then development cost? Never did I quote a cost, nor did I suggest an "Average" game cost that much. I said that early PS2 development was huge...Im gonna end this discussion now before you invent some other random things ive said.


lol

You don't know why development costs are related to profit ? 

 

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@ Avinash_Tyagi

I said it was preliminary. I wasn't saying that it was law. I said in my op that it probably sold around 200k this week. I know the preliminary is preliminary. Also, this wasn't about it outselling DMC3 on the PS2; It was about the PS3 being even remotely close to the PS2 version with a much smaller install base. So what are you talking about?

@ Zucas

I didn't call anyone fanboys! And I just read your post. And you make a valid point that it is hard to compare sales across platforms. And I quite enjoyed your Smash Bros analogy. Using percentages, it looks not as good as Melee, but we all know otherwise. thanks!



The one thing we know for certain, is it certainly didn't move a lot of extra units this week.



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PooperScooper said:
Whats HSG5? Probablly a bad game


You, my poopy friend, have no idea what you're talking about.