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chuckyj1 said:
I think this is a stupid feature for both systems...And I dread thinking about how many of these $h1ty game clips will flood the already overcrowded with stupid $h1t face book posts...This may force me to close my face book account once and for all....


I somewhat agree.

If they are going to introduce such a feature, they should have done it right from the beginning and thus, once again, followed the PC with it's unlimited recording length, let the users chop, edit and cut the video and upload it, instead of throwing restrictions everywhere.




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I am a little surprised but i should'nt be i guess.

And again MS is offering the possibilty to whomever wants to troll their next console by not having features available they so proudly announced. (or did they mention these were only available to goldmembers?)



For anyone stll wondering if PS Plus is required for the PS4's video recording, Shu confirmed Plus is NOT required for this feature today on twitter.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/08/playstation-plus-wont-be-required-to-record-and-stream-video-on-ps4/

and

https://twitter.com/yosp



Blood_Tears said:
For anyone stll wondering if PS Plus is required for the PS4's video recording, Shu confirmed Plus is NOT required for this feature today on twitter.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/08/playstation-plus-wont-be-required-to-record-and-stream-video-on-ps4/

and

https://twitter.com/yosp

 

Sony just comfirmed it this morning. It's officially not just a rumor anymore. (Picture taken from gaf http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=647171)

Microsoft does what Sony don't?



This is really silly, so now people are discussing who gives more or less when you pay? Sony recently announced that they will start requiring PS+ for most multiplayer, yet people still think they are some kind of heroes for not requiring it for the recording?

Do not people understand that these are business decisions? If MS´s strategy works, Sony will follow suit. If, however, Sony´s strategy is succesful, MS will follow closely (like, for example, free games). None of them are "good guys" or "bad guys" which Sony showed by starting to require payments for more of their services. They want to make money to stay in this business and make more games avaliable for us gamers.

And, for anyone complaining about all the money everything costs: it is a lot cheaper to be a gamer today than in the 90´s, you get more for less and a lot better deals all the time. So you chill out and start enjoying the games instead :).



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Figgycal said:
Blood_Tears said:
Figgycal said:
the2real4mafol said:
Not surprising of Microsoft. At least they get a constant livestream of you for free courtesy of Kinect.

Does game recording require playstation plus on PS4?

We don't know yet.


Read the Op

Thanks for the thoughtful advice, but you could've saved us the time and just posted "no"; it's not like the entire op is centered around this one question. And as far as i know - I don't believe Sony has comfirmed that, though I could be wrong.

Confirmed to not require Playstation Plus

~http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/08/playstation-plus-wont-be-required-to-record-and-stream-video-on-ps4/



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Puppyroach said:
This is really silly, so now people are discussing who gives more or less when you pay? Sony recently announced that they will start requiring PS+ for most multiplayer, yet people still think they are some kind of heroes for not requiring it for the recording?

Do not people understand that these are business decisions? If MS´s strategy works, Sony will follow suit. If, however, Sony´s strategy is succesful, MS will follow closely (like, for example, free games). None of them are "good guys" or "bad guys" which Sony showed by starting to require payments for more of their services. They want to make money to stay in this business and make more games avaliable for us gamers.

And, for anyone complaining about all the money everything costs: it is a lot cheaper to be a gamer today than in the 90´s, you get more for less and a lot better deals all the time. So you chill out and start enjoying the games instead :).

You're absolutely right - all businesses want your money in the end; there is no good guy or bad guy when it comes to big businesses. But there is a right way and a wrong way to go about things. There is a pro-consumer way and an anti-consumer way. From the very beginning - Microsoft showed that it was going about things in an anticonsumer way and have only recently changed. Sony on the other hand has done a great job demonstrating the value of PS plus and showing the plethora of features available to non-ps plus memebers while I'm still wondering if I can do ANYTHING without a gold account.

It's not about Sony being heroes for not doing DRM or in this case requiring PS + for this feature. It's about Microsoft doing things wrong and Sony having the common sense to do what people want.

Also chilling out and enjoy games is nice and all, but if nobody complained these businesses would walk all over us.

 



the2real4mafol said:
Figgycal said:
Blood_Tears said:
Figgycal said:
the2real4mafol said:
Not surprising of Microsoft. At least they get a constant livestream of you for free courtesy of Kinect.

Does game recording require playstation plus on PS4?

We don't know yet.


Read the Op

Thanks for the thoughtful advice, but you could've saved us the time and just posted "no"; it's not like the entire op is centered around this one question. And as far as i know - I don't believe Sony has comfirmed that, though I could be wrong.

Confirmed to not require Playstation Plus

~http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/08/playstation-plus-wont-be-required-to-record-and-stream-video-on-ps4/

Yes I wrote a post about it. This was comfirmed this morning - not when I originally posted that reply.



Puppyroach said:
This is really silly, so now people are discussing who gives more or less when you pay? Sony recently announced that they will start requiring PS+ for most multiplayer, yet people still think they are some kind of heroes for not requiring it for the recording?

Do not people understand that these are business decisions? If MS´s strategy works, Sony will follow suit. If, however, Sony´s strategy is succesful, MS will follow closely (like, for example, free games). None of them are "good guys" or "bad guys" which Sony showed by starting to require payments for more of their services. They want to make money to stay in this business and make more games avaliable for us gamers.

And, for anyone complaining about all the money everything costs: it is a lot cheaper to be a gamer today than in the 90´s, you get more for less and a lot better deals all the time. So you chill out and start enjoying the games instead :).

Microsoft has stuff like Skype and Internet Explorer (things that are free elsewhere) behind the Xbox Live paywall alongside livestreaming, Netlfix. MS even tried to put F2P games behind the paywall, but developers rightfully told them where to shove it. As a result, some developers have been turned off by the Xbox One. 

All Sony wants to charge you for is Multiplayer but you get a decent selection of games thrown in too. Everything else on PS4 from cross game chat to F2P, Netflix and now livestreaming don't require PS+ at all. Who knows, we might even get Gaikai included in some form on PS+, so we can play any game from PS1, PS2 or PS3. That would be a steal.

The problem people have with MS is that they try to make money out of even free stuff. It's why BBC iPlayer took so long to get on Xbox 360 because MS wanted even that to require a membership and the BBC refused to accept that. I know multiplayer is a key feature but the rest of the consoles features shouldn't be locked to a paywall as well. 



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'When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the people's stick'- Mikhail Bakunin

Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030

Figgycal said:
Puppyroach said:
This is really silly, so now people are discussing who gives more or less when you pay? Sony recently announced that they will start requiring PS+ for most multiplayer, yet people still think they are some kind of heroes for not requiring it for the recording?

Do not people understand that these are business decisions? If MS´s strategy works, Sony will follow suit. If, however, Sony´s strategy is succesful, MS will follow closely (like, for example, free games). None of them are "good guys" or "bad guys" which Sony showed by starting to require payments for more of their services. They want to make money to stay in this business and make more games avaliable for us gamers.

And, for anyone complaining about all the money everything costs: it is a lot cheaper to be a gamer today than in the 90´s, you get more for less and a lot better deals all the time. So you chill out and start enjoying the games instead :).

You're absolutely right - all businesses want your money in the end; there is no good guy or bad guy when it comes to big businesses. But there is a right way and a wrong way to go about things. There is a pro-consumer way and an anti-consumer way. From the very beginning - Microsoft showed that it was going about things in an anticonsumer way and have only recently changed. Sony on the other hand has done a great job demonstrating the value of PS plus and showing the plethora of features available to non-ps plus memebers while I'm still wondering if I can do ANYTHING without a gold account.

It's not about Sony being heroes for not doing DRM or in this case requiring PS + for this feature. It's about Microsoft doing things wrong and Sony having the common sense to do what people want.

Also chilling out and enjoy games is nice and all, but if nobody complained these businesses would walk all over us.

 


But the thing is - these are added benefits to a games console. If I do not wish to pay for having acces to Skype or Netflix, I can use my computer. Otherwise, I can still use my console as a games machine, which it actually is.

The thing that is strange though, is the way both MS and Sony require payments (starting with the next generation) for multiplayer, which should be seen as an integral part of a game experience. That is in a lot of ways an anti-consumer decision, but I still recognize the fact that all these membership fees for XBLA has given me the best gaming experience by far during any generation, so obviously the money benefits me in some ways.

But I agree, they do make decisions (both of them) in advance of the coming generation that are, in some parts, anti-consumer (although they are actually very benefitial for those of us that pay). I have a very hard time thinking Game recording features and Skype availability should be counted as part of an anti-consumer agenda since they really are just bonuses besides the gaming experience.