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Cobretti2 on 06 August 2013

wow so many pages talking about the profit here.

In all honesty I don't think Rockstar should care if it profits on Wii U or not. The game will make them 100s of millions from the other two systems. So even if they loose 3 million, it is pocket change. In any case carnival games earned them millions from Wii, what did they do with that money? not reinvest much of it back into Wii it would seem

The benefit of putting the game on the system is to try and gain a new audience. There are loads of people who own one console each generation and when they grow up atm they have the choice of go to a console with 3rd party support or stick with a Nintendo console. If a Nintendo console offered GTA then those who stuck it out with a Nintendo system only have the ability to buy the game. It may also retain those who left if there was enough 3rd party support. At worst what will happen is some of the sales will shift from Sony and Microsoft to Nintendo. This isn't such a bad thing considering when you compare GTA sales on PS2/xbox against PS3/360. It looks like half the gamers shifted to xbox over ps3 this gen. Next gen it is looking more like PS4 will have way more sales of GTA.

COD is a good example of a game that makes no big profit. Activation opening said they were not happy with the COD sales on Wii U yet the next one is coming out in the hope a new Audience grows to further expand the profits of the franchise.




 

 

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Mnementh on 06 August 2013
Zero999 said:
Mnementh said:

goodgamesir said:

Wow, with your numbers one can wonder how the hell any company lost money this gen if 100k on a new HD platform is enough to turn a profit for one of the biggest game of the generation. 100K to cover full port into a different platform and architecture, for bug testing, printing, shipping, advertising really? This is an HD platform we are talking about. Nintendo was probably thinking like you about the price of HD gaming and they got cought by surprise by the amount of resources it needed and had to delay so many of their games.

So you want to tell me that Activision hates money and ports Ghosts to WiiU, if not even BLOPS turned a profit. They can't expect  much more sales for Ghosts, maybe 300K. But it works on new technology, that increases the effort needed to port it over to WiiU. So if BLOPS didn't profit, Ghosts will also not. You tell me Eric Hirshberg (CEO of Activision) greenlights this port, if they expect a loss on it? Same with Ubisoft, they port a new Assassins Creed if the old one didn't profit? The userbase of the WiiU did not grow that much, so at least it is risky and brings only a low profit, if the old one was sold at a loss. No sane company would do that. You tell me Activision and Ubisoft can't calculate or love Nintendo so much they are willing to make a loss? No.

I'd say it will easily cross the 500k mark.

You're too optimistic. It may cross the 500K mark sometimes in the future, or may not. But in any case not easily.

You're too optimistic in regards to GTA too. I'm pretty sure a GTA could sell enough on WiiU too pay for a port, but the profits may be low enough, so that Rockstar doesn't bother. They are low enough for EA to be sure they keep away from WiiU for the moment. So I don't think GTA V on WiiU has a high probability.



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Angelv577 on 06 August 2013

@Zero999

"And no one said anything yet to counter my argument that even if the wii u profits are small compared to the other two, it still paves the way for the next GTA".

Well, let see how the next iteration of AC black flag and batman arkham origins perform on the Wii U.



Zero999 on 06 August 2013
Mnementh said:
Zero999 said:
Mnementh said:

goodgamesir said:

Wow, with your numbers one can wonder how the hell any company lost money this gen if 100k on a new HD platform is enough to turn a profit for one of the biggest game of the generation. 100K to cover full port into a different platform and architecture, for bug testing, printing, shipping, advertising really? This is an HD platform we are talking about. Nintendo was probably thinking like you about the price of HD gaming and they got cought by surprise by the amount of resources it needed and had to delay so many of their games.

So you want to tell me that Activision hates money and ports Ghosts to WiiU, if not even BLOPS turned a profit. They can't expect  much more sales for Ghosts, maybe 300K. But it works on new technology, that increases the effort needed to port it over to WiiU. So if BLOPS didn't profit, Ghosts will also not. You tell me Eric Hirshberg (CEO of Activision) greenlights this port, if they expect a loss on it? Same with Ubisoft, they port a new Assassins Creed if the old one didn't profit? The userbase of the WiiU did not grow that much, so at least it is risky and brings only a low profit, if the old one was sold at a loss. No sane company would do that. You tell me Activision and Ubisoft can't calculate or love Nintendo so much they are willing to make a loss? No.

I'd say it will easily cross the 500k mark.

You're too optimistic. It may cross the 500K mark sometimes in the future, or may not. But in any case not easily.

You're too optimistic in regards to GTA too. I'm pretty sure a GTA could sell enough on WiiU too pay for a port, but the profits may be low enough, so that Rockstar doesn't bother. They are low enough for EA to be sure they keep away from WiiU for the moment. So I don't think GTA V on WiiU has a high probability.

by the end of the year, wii u's installed base will be several times the 2M where blops 2 sold its 150k. and seriously, EA? you're using EA as an example? the company who sabotaged it's own games to have an excuse?



Seece on 06 August 2013

People have given you plenty of reasons why it won't happen, I guess if you wanna ignore them good for you.

Fact remains though, the chances of it happening are very slim and it'll be because Rockstar don't see enough incentive there for it.



 

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oniyide on 06 August 2013
Seece said:
People have given you plenty of reasons why it won't happen, I guess if you wanna ignore them good for you.

Fact remains though, the chances of it happening are very slim and it'll be because Rockstar don't see enough incentive there for it.


the fact of the matter is that it isnt coming, so speculating if they could profit or if they could not is pointless, the only difference is that the people who are saying isnt get a LITTLE more validation because it isnt coming probably for some of the same reasons we have been saying, that or we going back to 3rd parties hate Ninty and if that is the case, then whats the point and why would people even want the game on their console if thats the reason.



Daisuke72 on 07 August 2013
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:

it's a multiplatform title, the chances are rockstar is receiving 0 money from sony and microsoft.

i disagree because not paying doesn't imply "getting nothing". the game can still be on wii u on it's 8th gen version.

Is it coming to WIi U? then they are getting nothing. I dont believe there will be an 8th gen version, there has been no evidence of it.

As for financially beneficial for RS, nope. RS has to worry about their fans, and their fans have the console to play the game on already. If they put it on WIi U, the people who would buy it most likely would have just bought it for PS360, so its not like they would increase their sales

keep crying, it's kinda entertaining, really.

so nothing to back up your claims? didnt think so. Im not crying at all. You are, ill be enjoying the game when it comes. You wont.

Zouch.



oniyide on 08 August 2013
Daisuke72 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:

it's a multiplatform title, the chances are rockstar is receiving 0 money from sony and microsoft.

i disagree because not paying doesn't imply "getting nothing". the game can still be on wii u on it's 8th gen version.

Is it coming to WIi U? then they are getting nothing. I dont believe there will be an 8th gen version, there has been no evidence of it.

As for financially beneficial for RS, nope. RS has to worry about their fans, and their fans have the console to play the game on already. If they put it on WIi U, the people who would buy it most likely would have just bought it for PS360, so its not like they would increase their sales

keep crying, it's kinda entertaining, really.

so nothing to back up your claims? didnt think so. Im not crying at all. You are, ill be enjoying the game when it comes. You wont.

Zouch.

but its true though