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outlawauron on 05 August 2013
RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

 By this time next year the Wii U should have NSMBU, Nintendo Land, Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Sonic Lost World, DKC Tropical Freeze, SM3D World, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, Yoshi Yarn, Smash Bros. 4, and much much more. Anyone who says the Wii U "haz no games" at this point needs to get some serious help!

I don't see it that way. Wihle all of those games are good, only the two from Platinum Games deviate from what you'd normally see on a Nintendo platform, so there's no much improvement for those who weren't Nintendo fans already.

This is a very good post.

Pay attention, everyone. This guy calls The Wonderful 101 a game that deviates from what you normally see on a Nintendo platform when it is in fact a game that very much looks like a Nintendo game. What lifts it above the usual Nintendo stuff is the development studio that makes it, nothing else. So what appeals to non-Nintendo fans are games that are not Nintendo games. This can either be factual or, like in this specific case, a mere illusion. The Wonderful 101 is a Nintendo IP, but since this isn't really common knowledge it doesn't have the stench of the Nintendo name attached to it, thus it's one of the most interesting Wii U exclusives.

Anyway, I hope to see you in this year's NFL prediction league. I wish your Cardinals the best of luck, because they are going to need it.

It looks Viewtiful Joe with over the top action. I don't see how it or any of the gameplay they've shown looks at all like a Nintendo title.

Also, I'm not at all interested in Wonderful 101. I think it looks very boring. I was explaining the mindset of most people. That said, Zelda and Smash do a lot of change perception.

Edit: How did I not notice this. I will try and predict, but I"m not a Cardinals fan.



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Dr.Grass on 05 August 2013
NintendoPie said:
"I was expecting a new Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, and 3D Mario all in the first 9 months. I am unreasonable."

-Says most of the internet.


And they didn't even get one of those.

Spin it any way you like, the first 9 months have been abysmal. Go check what games came out on Gamecube in the same timeframe. Oh wait, that business model (which featured constant, killer software) has been completely abandoned.



Lonely_Dolphin on 05 August 2013
outlawauron said:
RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

I was explaining the mindset of most people.



Most people who play video games aren't forum go-ers. They wont care who the game is made by, only about the game itself. I bet if SM3DW were made by Microsoft, it would sell the same as it would otherwise. I'll also bet you've never heard of people irl talking about Activison and Ubisoft rather than Call of Duty and Assasin's Creed.

burninmylight on 05 August 2013
oni-link said:
zorg1000 said:
Seece said:
RolStoppable said:
Seece said:
RolStoppable said:

First twelve months is irrelevant, because people are shortsighted. The here and now will be compared and that means a full year of games for Wii U vs. the launch lineup of the other consoles. Multiplats are going to get disregarded on any platform. (...)

Killer Instinct is getting very good feedback actually, Ryse is the one disappointing. If you're not talking about the first 12 months then it makes even less sense, after that PS4 and One will be picking up steam and when multiplats come thick and fast they aren't ignored like you're suggestion.

X1 Launch: Killer Instinct, Zoo Tycoon, Ryse, Forza 5, Dead RIsing 3, Project Spark, Lococycle
12 months leading: Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Quantum Break, Black Tusk's Stealth game, Titanfall, Plants vs Zombies GW, Kinect Sports Rivals, Fantasia, Minecraft and all the indie stuff (Crimson Dragon, D4, Below)

Will a couple slip? Probably, as it stand though that's look very solid. Titanfall, KS and PVZ GW are spring as well.

The answer to the bolded is what I left in my previous quote. People will ask what they can play now, not months or even years in the future. It's not going to be that people will rush out to buy Wii Us, what will happen is that a consensus along the lines of the following will be reached:

"The only eighth gen console out right now that is worth buying is the Wii U, because the others just don't have enough exclusive games to justify their price tags. But there is the problem that third parties won't support the Wii U in the long run, so a second console would be needed to get access to the majority of games."

The result will be apathy towards eighth gen consoles and people will wait until more games arrive and the hardware prices come down. It's not hard to wait when the PS3 and 360 will continue to get most games. The Wii U will go from "no games" to "only has Nintendo games", the PS4 and X1 will take over the "no games" label.

Disagree. X1's line up will be compareable to WiiU's 6 months in when Titanfall and PVZ GW hit along with the launch line up (which is much stronger than WiiU's was)

You think sales will flounder? To what level? I can't evvisage a scenario where they get near WiiU levels.

Isnt Titanfall also coming to 360? 

woah...you mean I don't need to upgrade my 360 to the X1 to play the game? Well still on the fence about spluring $600 on the X1 when I still have a 16 (Enslaved, TR, BulletStorm etc) game backlog for my 360, a 12 game backlog for my Wii(SkywardSword, RedSteel2, Lost in Shadow, DKC:R etc) and a 5 game backlog for my Wii U (NFSMW, ZombieU, DarkSiders 2, Trine2, and NinjaGaiden) !!! The only thing I could game on recently are the streetpass games on my 3DS (I know sad but true).


Whoa dude, get some of those games out of the shrinkwrap before putting down money on the next console. I have a six retail game backlog on Wii and a few games on WiiWare I still need to acquire, like Castlevania ReBirth and La Mulana. I have never purchased a handheld since the GBA because I still have so many freaking games I have yet to play on it.



burninmylight on 05 August 2013
outlawauron said:
RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

I don't see it that way. Wihle all of those games are good, only the two from Platinum Games deviate from what you'd normally see on a Nintendo platform, so there's no much improvement for those who weren't Nintendo fans already.

This is a very good post.

Pay attention, everyone. This guy calls The Wonderful 101 a game that deviates from what you normally see on a Nintendo platform when it is in fact a game that very much looks like a Nintendo game. What lifts it above the usual Nintendo stuff is the development studio that makes it, nothing else. So what appeals to non-Nintendo fans are games that are not Nintendo games. This can either be factual or, like in this specific case, a mere illusion. The Wonderful 101 is a Nintendo IP, but since this isn't really common knowledge it doesn't have the stench of the Nintendo name attached to it, thus it's one of the most interesting Wii U exclusives.

Anyway, I hope to see you in this year's NFL prediction league. I wish your Cardinals the best of luck, because they are going to need it.

It looks Viewtiful Joe with over the top action. I don't see how it or any of the gameplay they've shown looks at all like a Nintendo title.

Also, I'm not at all interested in Wonderful 101. I think it looks very boring. I was explaining the mindset of most people. That said, Zelda and Smash do a lot of change perception.

Edit: How did I not notice this. I will try and predict, but I"m not a Cardinals fan.


So it doesn't remind you of a certain Nintendo title that just released in which you command about a hundred creatures to fight enemies, clear obstacles and generally follow your bidding? Not to mention the bright and colorful art style and over-the-top characters that would fit right into something Nintendo would cook up?



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burninmylight on 05 August 2013

"Wii U Haz No Gaemz" = "Wii U has no smash hit exclusives that I am personally interested in"

That's the only way that label goes.



outlawauron on 05 August 2013
burninmylight said:
outlawauron said:
It looks Viewtiful Joe with over the top action. I don't see how it or any of the gameplay they've shown looks at all like a Nintendo title.

Also, I'm not at all interested in Wonderful 101. I think it looks very boring. I was explaining the mindset of most people. That said, Zelda and Smash do a lot of change perception.

Edit: How did I not notice this. I will try and predict, but I"m not a Cardinals fan.

So it doesn't remind you of a certain Nintendo title that just released in which you command about a hundred creatures to fight enemies, clear obstacles and generally follow your bidding? Not to mention the bright and colorful art style and over-the-top characters that would fit right into something Nintendo would cook up?

The fact you have a ton of controllable characters doesn't make the game Pikmin.



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happydolphin on 05 August 2013
RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

I don't see it that way. Wihle all of those games are good, only the two from Platinum Games deviate from what you'd normally see on a Nintendo platform, so there's no much improvement for those who weren't Nintendo fans already.

This is a very good post.

Pay attention, everyone. This guy calls The Wonderful 101 a game that deviates from what you normally see on a Nintendo platform when it is in fact a game that very much looks like a Nintendo game. What lifts it above the usual Nintendo stuff is the development studio that makes it, nothing else. So what appeals to non-Nintendo fans are games that are not Nintendo games. This can either be factual or, like in this specific case, a mere illusion. The Wonderful 101 is a Nintendo IP, but since this isn't really common knowledge it doesn't have the stench of the Nintendo name attached to it, thus it's one of the most interesting Wii U exclusives.

Anyway, I hope to see you in this year's NFL prediction league. I wish your Cardinals the best of luck, because they are going to need it.

Just saw this, it's pretty funny :)



Zero999 on 05 August 2013
burninmylight said:
outlawauron said:

It looks Viewtiful Joe with over the top action. I don't see how it or any of the gameplay they've shown looks at all like a Nintendo title.

Also, I'm not at all interested in Wonderful 101. I think it looks very boring. I was explaining the mindset of most people. That said, Zelda and Smash do a lot of change perception.

Edit: How did I not notice this. I will try and predict, but I"m not a Cardinals fan.


So it doesn't remind you of a certain Nintendo title that just released in which you command about a hundred creatures to fight enemies, clear obstacles and generally follow your bidding? Not to mention the bright and colorful art style and over-the-top characters that would fit right into something Nintendo would cook up?

pikmin 3 is a real time strategy game while wonderfull 101 is an action game. the only similarity between the two is the "up to 100 characters" part. the games play nothing like each other.



Zero999 on 05 August 2013
RolStoppable said:

Luigi's Mansion, Wave Race: Blue Storm, Pikmin, Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. NSMBU, Nintendo Land and Pikmin 3. What a huge difference.

Here's how the GC launch was really: The system launched in May 2002 in Europe, it launched in September 2001 in Japan. Eight months had already passed. Luigi, Wave Race and SSBM hit in May, Pikmin in June. Despite the delayed launch for Europe, the system entered a software drought right away (and since Europe got the worthwile games in a bulk for its launch month, this meant that Japan and America had already been going through their own droughts).

The year ended with Resident Evil, Eternal Darkness and Super Mario Sunshine for the GC, the Wii U will see The Wonderful 101, a The Wind Waker HD remake, Sonic Lost World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D World, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U and Mario & Sonic. What this means is that the 14 months run of the Wii U will have outdone the 16 months run of the GC (The Wind Waker was released in Japan in December 2002, Metroid Prime in America in November 2002; decide for yourself how much weight you want to give to single region releases). This is without factoring in the Wii U's eShop which softens the blow of every drought.

The GC featured constant killer software, but only if we wipe all of its droughts from our memory.

and don't forget that wii u is also getting the big multis for 2013 holidays.