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Is there a hell and do athiest go there?

Yes 49 50.52%
 
No 25 25.77%
 
Not Sure 14 14.43%
 
That would be an ecumenical matter 7 7.22%
 
Total:95

No, i dont believe you will go to hell.

As a christian, if God is supposed to be loving, he wouldnt send you to burn forever for the mistakes youve made with your short time on earth, and especcially because of your beliefs. Its unethical. Could you imagine a parent burning their child because he/she did something wrong?

And of course, if youre athiest, it shouldnt matter in the first place.



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BossPuma said:

No, i dont believe you will go to hell.

As a christian, if God is supposed to be loving, he wouldnt send you to burn forever for the mistakes youve made with your short time on earth, and especcially because of your beliefs. Its unethical. Could you imagine a parent burning their child because he/she did something wrong?

And of course, if youre athiest, it shouldnt matter in the first place.


G-D doesn't force His Love on mankind... it's more like you're bing told not to walk off a cliff, but you stubbornly and arrogantly walk off anyways. 



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

SlayerRondo said:

As someone who was recently christian then deconverting to athiesm i have been wondering about the idea of hell.

If i put the question to you that given my honest disbelief in the existence of a god i will suffer eternal pain and torture?

Please let me know below.


I'm Christian and I believe in hell.

Do I believe that you would end up in hell for Atheism?  Well, that's God's call and people aren't supposed to judge others.  As for whether you're doing something wrong by being Atheist, well, that depends.

As a Christian you believe that Jesus was the son of God and that his time on earth was to instruct and set an example.  One of the fundamental themes of Jesus's life is that he placed right and wrong and acts of kindness high above religiousness.  He was himself religious, and never said not to be religuous, but he made many statements emphaising that your thoughts and actions in life are much more important than what you do in the temple on Saturday.  He gave examples of Summaritans as role models (what would be the equivalent of a modern-day Christian saying a Muslum is living life the right way), he emphaised private prayer as opposed to preaching in church and he hung out with people the church leaders would call "sinners".  I would think that it is un-Christian to think that non-Christians are damned to hell.  So I would say that no, being an Atheist is not giong to send you the fire.

On the flip side though, I think it's important to ask why you have ditched Christianity in favor of a Godless existance.  If you simply can't find reason to believe in your life, I would like to think God would understand.  If your reasons are that you find the expectations of kindness and love that come with Christianity too difficult then God probably wouldn't approve.  If you don't like Christianity because removing God from your life makes you feel better and more empowered because you feel there is no one above you.... well I would say that's a bad reason too because humility's a good thing.  But of course it's wrong for anywone to speak on behalf of God and to judge others - so I want to be clear I'm not doing that.  I'm just giving you my opinion of how I try to interpret life's meaning for myself.  And no, in simple terms I don't think that non-Christians are going to hell.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
spurgeonryan said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Of course most of them believe that atheists are going to hell. If not, what would be the point of their religious practicing? Why would they spend years on their knees before God if those who do not may receive the same reward anyway?


why are we on our knees?


You expect to benefit from it by avoiding eternal suffering and receiving eternal happiness and joy. Avoiding what you fear and seeking beneficial life conditions is part of human nature, after all.

You clearly have no idea what sprititual belief is all about.  Believing in God isn't some burdensome experience that you bank in the hopes of a later reward after death.  Christianity is easy, you just be a good person.  I guess sometimes being good is tough.  And helping others may take sacrifice.  But it's what we should be doing in life anyway.  But whatever happens after death will happen regardless.  Religious belief during life is not to hopefully book a penthouse suite in Heaven, but rather to assist you with the current life before you get there.



I believe in it, but I don't like that it's there. It muffles my impression of God.
It doesn't seem fitting for an all-loving God to send people to such a place.



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I most certainly do. I may not be a practicing christian, but there are a few things I am certain of: Jesus as God, God the Father, Satan, Creation, Hell. Those are some of the most vivid spiritual realities I have.

I may not go to heaven, but I certainly do not want to go to hell. It actually helps me better myself believe it or not.

I also answered Yes to the poll, because most will. Actually most christians also will. The bible says:

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

And:

Ask, Seek, Knock

7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9“Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

The Narrow and Wide Gates

 

13“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.



It's funny, because if you are an atheist... you do believe in hell.

At least the original definition of it.



Also, the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church now both agree hell is not an actual place, but a state of being in the afterlife.

Those who were faithful/good people whatever are filled with the love of god, and joy of knowing they did their best and believed.

Those who were evil and sinned feel a deep shame, sadness and emptyness, denied their creators love.

Essentially hell is forever being heartbroken like the ultimate breakup. (Well now. Originally it just meant your soul didn't exist anymore. Only those who follow god receive eternal life. Probably too depressing a thought for early christians though. Your uncle who you love but is a very flawed person who rejects god? Doesn't exist. Pretty harsh.).



I don't believe hell is a literal fiery pit with the devil poking you with a pitchfork, but I do believe hell exists.



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This is one of a few biblical account that describes hell:

Luke.16 Verses 19 to 31


    [19] "There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 
    [20] And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz'arus, full of sores, 
    [21] who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 
    [22] The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; 
    [23] and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz'arus in his bosom. 
    [24] And he called out, `Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Laz'arus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.' 
    [25] But Abraham said, `Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Laz'arus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 
    [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' 
    [27] And he said, `Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house, 
    [28] for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.' 
    [29] But Abraham said, `They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 
    [30] And he said, `No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 
    [31] He said to him, `If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.'"