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Is there a hell and do athiest go there?

Yes 49 50.52%
 
No 25 25.77%
 
Not Sure 14 14.43%
 
That would be an ecumenical matter 7 7.22%
 
Total:95

If you believe in God then there is a counter point....hell.

At least all Jews, Christians, and Muslims feel this way. I am not sure how the other world religions feel on the subject.



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My favourite understanding of heaven & hell is the "allegory of the long spoons". There are countless (but all rather similar) variations of the tale; here's the one from Wikipedia:

"I once ascended to the firmaments. I first went to see Hell and the sight was horrifying. Row after row of tables were laden with platters of sumptuous food, yet the people seated around the tables were pale and emaciated, moaning in hunger. As I came closer, I understood their predicament.

Every person held a full spoon, but both arms were splinted with wooden slats so he could not bend either elbow to bring the food to his mouth. It broke my heart to hear the tortured groans of these poor people as they held their food so near but could not consume it.

Next I went to visit Heaven. I was surprised to see the same setting I had witnessed in Hell – row after row of long tables laden with food. But in contrast to Hell, the people here in Heaven were sitting contentedly talking with each other, obviously sated from their sumptuous meal.

As I came closer, I was amazed to discover that here, too, each person had his arms splinted on wooden slats that prevented him from bending his elbows. How, then, did they manage to eat?

As I watched, a man picked up his spoon and dug it into the dish before him. Then he stretched across the table and fed the person across from him! The recipient of this kindness thanked him and returned the favor by leaning across the table to feed his benefactor.

I suddenly understood. Heaven and Hell offer the same circumstances and conditions. The critical difference is in the way the people treat each other.

I ran back to Hell to share this solution with the poor souls trapped there. I whispered in the ear of one starving man, "You do not have to go hungry. Use your spoon to feed your neighbor, and he will surely return the favor and feed you."

'You expect me to feed the detestable man sitting across the table?' said the man angrily. 'I would rather starve than give him the pleasure of eating!'

I then understood God’s wisdom in choosing who is worthy to go to Heaven and who deserves to go to Hell."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_long_spoons



If a Christian believes in hell they are probably dont even know hell was taken from Viking religion. They stopped believing in that when King Harald switched to Christianity. Catholics turned the christian religion so paganism. LOL



If a thing as God and/or heaven exists, this must be hell.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Of course most of them believe that atheists are going to hell. If not, what would be the point of their religious practicing? Why would they spend years on their knees before God if those who do not may receive the same reward anyway?

Not everyone is motivated solely by rewards.



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happydolphin said:

This is one of a few biblical account that describes hell:

Luke.16 Verses 19 to 31


    [19] "There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 
    [20] And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz'arus, full of sores, 
    [21] who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 
    [22] The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; 
    [23] and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz'arus in his bosom. 
    [24] And he called out, `Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Laz'arus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.' 
    [25] But Abraham said, `Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Laz'arus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 
    [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' 
    [27] And he said, `Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house, 
    [28] for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.' 
    [29] But Abraham said, `They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 
    [30] And he said, `No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 
    [31] He said to him, `If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.'"


Still trying to find hell in any  ofithis. Sounds more like limbo than hell.



I'm a Christian and I do believe in hell. However, I don't believe it's how we tend to imagine it, I don't think we really know what happens to you if you go there, and I don't believe that any human on Earth has the ability to judge who is and who isn't going. As others have stated, I like to believe that a person's heart is more important than their beliefs. (If the hateful, judgmental Christian goes to Heaven and the loving, philanthropic atheist goes to hell, then God is just messed up.)



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Hell is just a synonym for temporal displacement. That is to say; a dark void where evil souls are isolated from the general spiritual community until they regain their awareness of the divine through introspection.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
happydolphin said:

This is one of a few biblical account that describes hell:

Luke.16 Verses 19 to 31


    [19] "There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 
    [20] And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz'arus, full of sores, 
    [21] who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 
    [22] The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; 
    [23] and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz'arus in his bosom. 
    [24] And he called out, `Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Laz'arus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.
    [25] But Abraham said, `Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Laz'arus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish
    [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' 
    [27] And he said, `Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house, 
    [28] for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    [29] But Abraham said, `They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 
    [30] And he said, `No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 
    [31] He said to him, `If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.'"


Still trying to find hell in any  ofithis. Sounds more like limbo than hell.

Read the bolded part. you'll find your answer. it was also so bad that he urged for someone to go from the dead and warn his brothers.



happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
happydolphin said:

This is one of a few biblical account that describes hell:

Luke.16 Verses 19 to 31


    [19] "There was a rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 
    [20] And at his gate lay a poor man named Laz'arus, full of sores, 
    [21] who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table; moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 
    [22] The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; 
    [23] and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Laz'arus in his bosom. 
    [24] And he called out, `Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Laz'arus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.
    [25] But Abraham said, `Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Laz'arus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish
    [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' 
    [27] And he said, `Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house, 
    [28] for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    [29] But Abraham said, `They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 
    [30] And he said, `No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 
    [31] He said to him, `If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.'"


Still trying to find hell in any  ofithis. Sounds more like limbo than hell.

Read the bolded part. you'll find your answer. it was also so bad that he urged for someone to go from the dead and warn his brothers.

Ohhhhhhhh! You're talking about Gehenna!