Can we get a third option on the poll? Both of these guys are tools. Fish is the bigger tool, but that doesn't excuse Beer's behavior.
FTW | |||
Team Beer | 240 | 65.04% | |
Team Fish | 126 | 34.15% | |
Total: | 366 |
Can we get a third option on the poll? Both of these guys are tools. Fish is the bigger tool, but that doesn't excuse Beer's behavior.
JayWood2010 said:
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dafuk did i just read o.O
pokoko said:
Doing a good job and keeping their mouths shut? Seriously? So small developers aren't allowed to speak out? They have to just take it? Seriously, what the hell? Damn, man. I think out opinions here are going to be WAY WAY FAR apart, as I think they have just as much right to voice their opinions as you. |
Let me ask, have you agreed with Phil Fish's recent statements?
It is one thing to speak out about policies and say hey we need to make changes, but it is a completely different thing when you go around the industry and say "Hey, japanese developers suck, my game is awesome." Or "my game is already #1 on steam, boycott harder nerds" and plenty of other childish things this man has said.
Yes he needs to keep his mouth shut. If he disagrees with policies then express it but his way of doing it has been unprofessional while acting like his one game is the greatest thing to grace the earth.
Shinobi-san said:
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As in they dont act like jerks, criticize everybody, and constantly show the world childish behavior.
Conegamer said: I really don't know what to say. Beer shouldn't have said it, Fish shouldn't have overreacted. Cancelling a game after all that work and, more importantly, money just because of one man on one small site is a massive mistake, to put it nicely. |
Actually, you know, I just had a look at Polytron's website and it's kind of understandable. The comments are sickening.
rofl Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:23
Get lost you waste of talent. Shitbag telling others to kill themselves, you dont deserve your fame, money or attention.
Badger Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:23
So no 360 patch then I guess.
Bob Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:24
Good. I hope that you never come back
Fish-a-filet Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:24
I would be sad if this was a good game. Fez is not a good game. I am happy a hack such as you gave up on releasing your next abomination.
Ugh Non Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:25
You are an embarrassment.
Lola Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:25
Good news. Stop making games please.
Trent Peacock Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:26
Typical Quebecor: Take the money and run, who cares about obligation.
Phillip Poisson Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:27
Why not pull Fez from steam while you’re at it? Or is this another stunt to try and get a few more sales for your pretentious little game?
Adoll Knitler Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:27
Suck my dick, choke on it.
Happy you're leaving. Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
So the face of indie gaming is a blubbering idiot who can’t deal with criticism.
Jon Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
Good, Fez was shit, who would want more of that shit?
Aye Nawn Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
$10 says the douche comes back in 6 months trying to release his terrible game again.
Naw guys, I just needed time to get my head together. I’m significantly less of a douche now.
Rektus Erectus Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
http://www.kotaku.com/fex-II-to-flip-between-cancelled-and-greenlighted
Nojustice4trayvon Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
Where’s that straight white male privilege when you need it the most, Fish?
Maybe you should stop beating women.
Oscar, the fish Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:28
Grow a thicker skin and a pair, buddy. Do not go back on the cancellation however, mankind ill needs garbage games such as this.
Neil L Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:29
Thats to bad, i know this industry can be, well, mean. i dont blame you for cancelling the game, people should give you a little break. everybody has their flaws, your not perfect, but im not either, along with everybody else who has hated on you in the past. I just want to thank you, for the first game, fez, it was a marvelous experience that i will treasure for the rest of my life.
Lenny, the great white shark Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:29
“Suck on my dick, choke on it”
swagnigga69 Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:29
THANK YOU BASED GOD
Chrom of Ylisse Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:29
Dear Phil,
Suck our collective dicks. Choke on them.
-Love, everybody
Ballin' Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:29
Great! This is way more fun than whatever pretentious hipster bullshit “art” game you were going to do
Golden Show Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
You’re game was shit anyway, where was the shooting and gore?
FuckFish Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
Wow you’re a whiney teeny weeny baby bitch boy. Grow a pair.
Liaym Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
I really enjoyed FEZ, but I can’t stand Phil Fish, he deserves all the hate because he acted like such a fucking dick, not sure how I feel about this news since I would have enjoyed a sequel
SomeRedhead Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
Godmode and Noclip sure would come in handy in a time like this, I play the world’s smallest violin for the poor little white boy being bullied on twitter ;_;
The Fourth Doctor Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
Compare your life to mine, then kill yourself.
Assbandit Says:
July 27th, 2013 at 16:30
good
fuck off.
ClassicGamingWizzz said: marcus beer is a fucking idiot too, he started the insults . this industry is pathetic specialy the " gaming journalists ". |
It mroe or less started when Fish and Blow basically attacked the integrity of the gaming media. Justified, but hardly respectful.
Marcus called them out on the hypocrisy of relying on the media to help promote their games, while at the same time publically attacking that media for its integrity. Justified, but hardly respectful.
If you want to criticize Beer over this, it's not a strong case. He was on an editorial-style discussion show that bills itself on outspoken personalities. It's like criticizing Playboy for being racy; that's what people are there for.
Xxain said: Why is it beers business on whether Fish has comment on MS policies? |
Because that wasn't his problem. His problem was Fish getting on twitter and criticizing people for asking him about it.
I believe in honesty, civility, generosity, practicality, and impartiality.
JayWood2010 said:
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No, I don't agree with those things and I don't like the guy at all. I'm not sure why you're trying to turn the conversation toward him, though, as my original comment was about why generalizations are ignorant.
Shinobi-san said:
That comment was better left at a place like N4G. To say that 98% of indie games are trash is crazy. Not only is the worth of a game specific to the player but that figure was pulled straight out of hes ass. |
you never visited XBLIG, did you?
Imagine not having GamePass on your console...
pokoko said:
No, I don't agree with those things and I don't like the guy at all. I'm not sure why you're trying to turn the conversation toward him, though, as my original comment was about why generalizations are ignorant. |
Yes generalizing is ignorant. Im not generalizing. Im talking about Phil and Blow specificly (Mostly Phil). I explained this and then you assumed more. Dont know what else to tell you other than that.
pokoko said: Actually, you know, I just had a look at Polytron's website and it's kind of understandable. The comments are sickening. |
Well Phil has his own history of nice tweets:
Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!)