Thought about it some more and wanted to add: While it's important to consider reviews for this type of list because you don't want to include everything and try and set some bar of quality, I don't think you can ignore something because it didn't meet your metacritic threshold. Plenty of games have become cult hits this way.

Sometimes when you press <- back, it returns you to your previous page, all text included. I do that when I accendently click an ad.

1. I 100% agree with you, but I still use review scores as a reference. For the most part, I agree with review scores, except in the cases of an overhyped good game (Halo 4, GTA IV), and in the case of a niche game (Front Mission Evolved, Golden Sun, The 3rd Birthday....actually JRPG's lately are getting decent scores).

2. I never called anything a bad game, just meh. This is you extrapolating.

3. That's not irony, that's extrapolating experiences, and it would be plain dumb if I had no reference to base this on. I never said any game was bad, just from my experiences I said that nothing on PSV stands out, so I should be clear, even to your standards.

I think you're line for ignorant is a bit too high, I own pretty much every console there is, and I think people are capable to some degree to judge a game, without playing it. I mention references to back up my case, but a lot of PSV exclusives, just don't look interesting. Also some of the exclusives I base off my experience with PSP prequels (like Luminies), so this is not ignorant at all.

So for example, I feel I am allowed to say that Soul Sacrifice is meh. 1. It looks similar to Monster Hunter, and an easy Demon Souls (and difficulty is apparently a reason why people love this series). So I'm allowed to say that I'm not interested in this game because I've played both Monster Hunter and Demon's Souls, and didn't enjoy them. 2. The review score is used to reflect my arguement, this game got a lower score then Demon Souls, and even Monster Hunter, so if most people view it less then those series, then it says something about the quality.

I'm not basing my opinion of a game, based off some time playing a demo, like you said demo's can be broken, and as an example, I hated the Too Human demo, but LOVED the game. However, I am capable of judging a game based off its gameplay, and I am capable of seeing the pros and cons of a game, mentioned in a review when I play it. AKA, if a review says a game is repetative, and I already begin to see repetative tasks in only 5 minutes, I don't need to play anymore to be able to expect the game to be repetative, like the review states.

Agreed, for instance Front Mission is one of my favorite franchises, but it only returns modest review scores. Plus a lot of good JRPG's on a PS3/360 have had sub 70 scores, but were worthwhile experiences (e.g. Magna Carta 2, and the Alteir series).

This is why you judge the feedback given by users. If I look around on VGC I will find a large community who talk about Alteir and Front Mission, and simply adore the game. I'll even find a small crowd who like Unit 13. However you won't find much PilotWings Resorts, or Resistance: Burning Skies support.

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There are many ways to judge a game without playing it. However often times, you need to just try it out. Monster Hunter and Persona are for example 2 highly reviewed games critically, and by users, but when I tried them out, I absolutely hated them. I do admit I need to try out a few more games before I can pass judgement on various series (I have barely played any Disgaea or Alteir), but I never critisize a game like this.

If you actually read what I've said, I've never called any PSV bad. I said I wouldn't include Ragnarok Odyssey as a reason to buy a Vita because of bad reviews, but since this is exactly the type of game which you need to try first before you can judge, I never said it was bad, or told someone to take that off their list of reasons why Vita is good. Also this is only 1 example, for most Vita games I sai they were meh.

And they are "meh." Maybe Uncharted: Golden Abyss is actually mind blowing like the console games.....but maybe it isn't. The game hasn't recieved high enough review scores, or a strong enough user following to give it more merit to play instead of my PSP backlog, or my DS backlog, or new 3DS games, or other PSV games, or even some other retro handheld game i haven't beaten.

It's low priority, and that's my opinion of most of the better PSV exclusives, that's why, as I've said countless times, I'll likely still get a Vita, just not now because right now, it is a waste for people like me, who aren't interested in ports or PS3 clones.

Soul Sacrifice is nothing like Monster Hunter and definitely not easy.

I can see why it wouldn't be everybody's cup of tea, at first I was very WTF? to it, however after a couple of hours it clicked and is now one of my favourite games so far this year.

Soul Sacrifice's biggest problem on the review front is actually probably the very fact they went into their reviews with expectations that it was going to be a Monster Hunter game. I'm really glad it isn't.

When I was talking about being easy, I meant in comparision to Demon's Souls.

So is this game like Demon's Souls then? What else is it similar to? Stretch if you have to.

P.S........ I'm going to ask myself to be banned.

Great thread guys, no hate, and I get why you're defending the Vita so much. Some of you guys are really honest to debate with.

Just I was suppose to study for a text for next week, and with work, I have very little time to study in the next few days.

I'm going to ask myself to be banned until my test is over, but I'll come back and continue this thread then alright?

I wish I had a Tekken game to play on Vita. I need some fighters on my vita. Don't want to get persona, and I absolutely hate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 AND, Street Fighter X Tekken. I'd love to see Ultra Street Fighter IV, and a Tekken game on vita.

And a port of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 with online play. I could also use a few megaman games. Oh well.....

Erm... I actually find it most like Phantasy Star Online, from the games I've played. It's a 4-player co-op action RPG. It's very fast paced and incredibly hectic at times. I've not had chance to try it online yet, but I really love the journal set up for each level.

It's biggest issue for a lot of people I guess, is that there is no massive world to explore, it's all in bite size  stages (though some of these battles can be pretty epic and run for quite a while) the journal sets the story for the main chapters and provides the story, there is very little in the way of exploration so if you're looking for that I'd steer clear. It's also a very grindy game, I was getting hammered by some of the early missions barely past the tutorial section, but running back though the earlier stages, farming more items/combining powering those spells up and increasing my level made them far easier to take on.

I think the reason I link it to Phantasy Star Online, is because the first one on Dreamcast had like 4 stages, that you just played over and over, and it was purely about leveling up, finding better rarer items with the difficulty just increasing as you improve at the game being the part adding the challenge.

It's definitely a marmite game (you'll either love it or hate it) but I do read a lot of comments about the game that just completely misunderstand what Soul Sacrifice is, and a lot of that is because they've not played the game, and if they have, it wasn't for more than 10 minutes, as it's not just 1 boss on each stage as I've read a lot of comments say, I've started getting to some much bigger environments now.

Anyway, thats my take on Soul Sacrifice, oh, and that the music is absolutely AWESOME! :D too good to be wasted on those puny built in speakers, headphones all the way!

I wanted to quote some of your previous posts, but each time I srated doing so I got distracted... n/m I'll try to do that later... But for now.

And what does Soul Sacrifice have to do with Demon's Souls? Both games have word soul in their titles so they must be "the more of the same"? And I actually disagree about Demon's Souls being hard. It's an trial and error type of game. Once you beat it, it becomes really easy.

Soul Sacrifice is an action adventure game, in which you fight monsters in arenas and collect different types of magic. That would be the basis of the game in simplest words. 

LOL No, I just thought Soul Sacrifice would be like Demon's Souls. I know Demon's Souls is an RPG, but to me it feels a lot like an Action RPG. Very little dialogue, very little plot, all Monster killing.

I like my RPG's to have a clear focus, and a clear plot. Monster Hunter, Demon Souls, and even stuff like God Eat and Freedom Wars stike me as games where you just fight monsters for the same of finghting monsters. I don't like those types of games.

Phantasy Star Online, another game I don't like....(no offense).

Grinding.....something else I hate (this is why I related it to Demon's souls).

An Action Adventure game with a large aspect of item management.....every game I played like this, I hated....

It might be awesome, but I think, even just from reading this, I can say that it's not my cup of tea.

Hard to classify a game which people either love or hate. Average isn't an appropriate word, I don't know what is.