If nintendo doesn't get the casuals then that will happen for sure. 

All those fan letters demanding paywalled online gaming....

I never mention that or had that in mind, just small things, that's all. I think people are taking my comment WWWAAAAAY out of proportion.

Companies listen to their fans but they don't have to act on their suggestions, wasn't Nintendo trying to do what their fans wanted during the GC era, no wonder they do things how they want.

Hourglass is a hand held game and WW is..you know..the SAME game lol. And if anyone is concerned about what "I'm doing here", they can go through my post history.

There's a reason Nintendo dropped off with Gamecube and innovation is the reason. The PS2 and Xbox both pushed the industry forward in hardware and software. The Gamecube did not.

Actually considering most Sony fans were talking about how great of a value their system was.. I doubt it was all listening to their fans.. it was more or less a hard lesson they learned.. and besides.. it's a lot easier when all you have to do to listen to your fans is make the most powerful system at a decent price point and show off some games.. if they did truly listen to their fans.. it's a lot harder for Nintendo.. when the fans are split on every choice they make.. with hardware and games and well just about everything.. 

Everything you just said is purely your own unsubstantiated opinion on things, sorry to say.

You cannot generalize and say that Nintendo console owners are not "core gamers" (whatever the hell that has come to mean these days).

You also cannot claim that "Nintendo fans don't care about third party games", when that is, I'm happy to report, complete BS.

You ALSO cannot state that so-called "core gamers" who buy Playstation or Xbox, DON'T like Nintendo franchises. Many of them do, but don't feel like buying a Nintendo console to play them. Which is too bad, because they're missing out on both counts. And quite frankly, the vast majority of people who claim that the Wii U and the GamePad "don't appeal to them", have not even held the GamePad nor actually played anything on the system.

If this mysterious and mystical "core audience" that you speak of didn't care about Mario games, then Mario games wouldn't be THE biggest selling, most popular video game franchise of all time. You don't honestly think that "Nintendo fanboys" are the only people who buy Mario games, do you? And while Mario is a prominant part of their catalogue, Nintendo hardly puts out JUST Mario games. Far from it. But alas, people are going to think what they're going to think. Facts just get in the way.

The failure of 3rd party games on the wii, the sales of zelda skyward sword, and the disapointment of EA and Ubisoft regarding their games sales on the wii u all speak for themselves.

Nintendo consoles have not been the main device in the living room of traditional gamers since the SNES. It would be very hard to convince them to make Nintendo's console their main one, even if they'd do everything right (which they aren't right now, of course).

Their market as main console is families with <14 yr old kids or hardcore Nintedo fans, or as secondary console for dedicated gamers that only want to play Nintendo games on it and have a PS4/1 for everything else.

The Wii was a one hit wonder, let's face it. I think Nintendo will keep surviving as console manufacturer but it's very unlikely that they will win a Gen ever again.

For the people that say the writer isn't a hardcore Nintendo fan, how many letters did YOU write to Nintendo?