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Would you like it if the Wii U was a normal next gen console?

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CarcharodonKraz on 16 July 2013
Soundwave said:

Yes I would prefer that because

1) Nintendo's SOFTWARE alone would make their platform unique to the XBox One and PS4. Do you confuse the SNES with the Genesis even though most third party games were multi-plat? Not even close, each system had a very distinct personality. It's because Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Star Fox, DKC, Zelda: LttP, Super Metroid, etc. are very different from anything on the Genesis. Games define hardware, not controllers or screen technology.

2.) It would save me roughly $400-$500+ (when controllers and such are factored in) from having to buy a PS4/XB1 for third party content. $400-$500 that I could then use to buy actual games with. I like the Uncharted and Halo franchises, but I can live without them if it saves me that kind of cash. I think many Nintendo fans would be in the same boat, we've been held hostage the last 3 console generations having to buy other consoles to get a full diet of balanced gaming, it gets annoying (and expensive) after a while.

3.) Nintendo overestimates Sony and MS. They don't need to run away and not compete or try to hide behind controller novelties to be relevant in the game business. They should rather just make the system third parties want and not cripple the appeal of the system by making it too child-ish. Mario alone ensures the system will always have a nice amount of family appeal, but take a page from Disney did in the 1990s onwards, and don't pigeon-hole oneself as a "family company" only.

4.) You could still make Nintendo Land + the tablet controller. Just bundle it together like Wii Fit + Balance Board and encourage third parties to use of the off-TV feature. It doesn't have to be sold with the console though if most games aren't going to make use of it or if developers really have to stretch game concepts to figure out how to integrate the controller into the gameplay in a meaningful way.

5.) I don't think the tablet screen actually improves the gameplay experience tangibly enough in the majority of software titles to justify eating up so much of the hardware budget. It's trying to be different for the sake of being different, rather than being different for the sake of a real need. In other words -- it's a forced idea rather than one that naturally encourages game innovation.

6.) Most all Nintendo software titles would benefit from better hardware even in a small way without a massive increase in budget. Games like Pikmin 3 and NSMBU could be rendered in 1080p versus 720p for better visual clarity and have better anti-aliasing thrown in. Zelda could have more characters on screen and/or a larger draw distance. Metroid could have more realistic lighting, etc. etc.

7.) They need to get over the GameCube. The GameCube failed because Nintendo didn't market it well enough, made many design errors with the hardware (purple lunchbox design, no DVD playback for the time), didn't "bring it" with their 1st/2nd party software, and gave Sony way too long of a headstart.


wow, i don't think i've ever agreed with someone so much on this forum. Especially on the saving money thing with multiplats.  The only thing i can add is another reason the gamecube didn't do well is it was the 1st time nintendo went astray with the controller design and the 1st time they tried to widen the market with it.  The giant "A" button in the middle turned alot of people off.  Also, i do think that games that utilize the gamepad will come, but still not as many as there should be. 



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winston000smith on 16 July 2013

Younger Nintendo fans seem delighted with whatever console Nintendo throws out as long as they provide the Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid etc magic that we all crave, which is fair enough I suppose...

However, as someone who remembers the glory days, when Video games were synonymous with Nintendo and we had the best of both worlds; I can't help but wonder - Wouldn't you prefer to have a more "normal" console capable of competing with AAA third party titles AND all that Nintendo magic? I would.

I have to ask: Is the "innovation" always worth it? I can honestly say having used the Wii U gamepad, it added very little to the experience for me, if anything it was an inconvenience.

I would have preferred Nintendo to go back to basics with this console (face it, the gimmickry ship has already sailed, the aching misery caused by the paltry selection of Wii games hidden in a small area of your local game store is an all too recent memory). They should have ditched the Wii name completely.

I vote "normal" all the way, because waggling the stick or poking the little screen just doesn't do that much for me. I would enjoy any Mario, Zelda or Mario Kart title just as much with a regular controller, more power and a 3rd party release schedule which removes the necessity of a second console. Is it too bigger dream, too much to ask?




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Karl Pilkington.

Soundwave on 16 July 2013
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:

just a hint. even if they sold the controller at a profit, the retail price would still be bellow $100. that means it costs about $70 tops to manufacture, only $50 more than a regular controller. and as I said, wii u can run any 8th gen game with it's curent specs, raising them would only mean waste of money, like sony and MS did.


My guess is the R&D to make the near latency free wireless video signal transmission work wasn't free. R&D is probably factored into the price of the controller.

That proclaimation at the end is utterly worthless too, lol. The Wii U can run any 8th gen game in the same way the 3DS probably could in theory run any Wii U game (see Mario 3D Land to Mario 3D World). You'd just have the scale the game down considerably.

the game would have to be scalled down by A LOT. wii u can run anything from ps4/xone without many downgrades, with an irrelevant difference between the versions.


You have no idea what you're talking about.



zorg1000 on 16 July 2013
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:

just a hint. even if they sold the controller at a profit, the retail price would still be bellow $100. that means it costs about $70 tops to manufacture, only $50 more than a regular controller. and as I said, wii u can run any 8th gen game with it's curent specs, raising them would only mean waste of money, like sony and MS did.


My guess is the R&D to make the near latency free wireless video signal transmission work wasn't free. R&D is probably factored into the price of the controller.

That proclaimation at the end is utterly worthless too, lol. The Wii U can run any 8th gen game in the same way the 3DS probably could in theory run any Wii U game (see Mario 3D Land to Mario 3D World). You'd just have the scale the game down considerably.

the game would have to be scalled down by A LOT. wii u can run anything from ps4/xone without many downgrades, with an irrelevant difference between the versions.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

He rarely does



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

soulsamurai on 17 July 2013

If it has a lot of games i was interested in, than yes i would be quite interested. They actually were starting to real me in with bayonetta 2 and Monster Hunter a bit, but other than that I can't say I'm really.....motivated to go with it. Give it that boost of hardward specs the other consoles have, and some more games I'm interested in I'll be happy to hop on board.

I can say that other than Zelda, and Pikmin though I really don't care much for Nintendo first party games.



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Proxy-Pie on 17 July 2013
ListerOfSmeg said:
Actually owning a Wii U has convinced me to also get shield for my PC. Being able to go from TV to any room in my home is a feature I really enjoy. The pad is lightweight and easy to handle.Considering the entire system cost me a little more than what shield alone will I don't feel at all cheated in any way by its unknown specs.

you could've downloaded a PC program that let's you stream on the gamepad XD



Proxy-Pie on 17 July 2013
Ljink96 said:
"The consensus was (in Nintendo) that power isn't everything for a console. Too many powerful consoles can't coexist. It's like having only ferocious dinosaurs. They might fight and hasten their own extinction."




-Shigeru Miyamoto


Miyamoyo's quotes are always true as fuck, but why shouldn't i expect this? he did save gaming as we know it after all (and revolutionized it countless of times)



Zero999 on 17 July 2013
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:

just a hint. even if they sold the controller at a profit, the retail price would still be bellow $100. that means it costs about $70 tops to manufacture, only $50 more than a regular controller. and as I said, wii u can run any 8th gen game with it's curent specs, raising them would only mean waste of money, like sony and MS did.


My guess is the R&D to make the near latency free wireless video signal transmission work wasn't free. R&D is probably factored into the price of the controller.

That proclaimation at the end is utterly worthless too, lol. The Wii U can run any 8th gen game in the same way the 3DS probably could in theory run any Wii U game (see Mario 3D Land to Mario 3D World). You'd just have the scale the game down considerably.

the game would have to be scalled down by A LOT. wii u can run anything from ps4/xone without many downgrades, with an irrelevant difference between the versions.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

He rarely does

You're saying I don't know what i talk about, in a quote from SOUNDWAVE.



ListerOfSmeg on 17 July 2013
MohammadBadir said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
Actually owning a Wii U has convinced me to also get shield for my PC. Being able to go from TV to any room in my home is a feature I really enjoy. The pad is lightweight and easy to handle.Considering the entire system cost me a little more than what shield alone will I don't feel at all cheated in any way by its unknown specs.

you could've downloaded a PC program that let's you stream on the gamepad XD


Thank you for that informations, I hadnt heard that. I will look into it though. That will save me 299.99 plus tax if I can get it to work.



zorg1000 on 17 July 2013
Zero999 said:
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:

just a hint. even if they sold the controller at a profit, the retail price would still be bellow $100. that means it costs about $70 tops to manufacture, only $50 more than a regular controller. and as I said, wii u can run any 8th gen game with it's curent specs, raising them would only mean waste of money, like sony and MS did.


My guess is the R&D to make the near latency free wireless video signal transmission work wasn't free. R&D is probably factored into the price of the controller.

That proclaimation at the end is utterly worthless too, lol. The Wii U can run any 8th gen game in the same way the 3DS probably could in theory run any Wii U game (see Mario 3D Land to Mario 3D World). You'd just have the scale the game down considerably.

the game would have to be scalled down by A LOT. wii u can run anything from ps4/xone without many downgrades, with an irrelevant difference between the versions.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

He rarely does

You're saying I don't know what i talk about, in a quote from SOUNDWAVE.

I dont always agree with him but he usually makes sense



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.