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Carl on 07 July 2013
saysuckasay said:
Carl2291 said:
saysuckasay said:
Carl2291 said:
PlayStation is the bigger brand, so anything like this is no surprise.

Enthusiasts vote on things like this, so with Sony's pro-gamer stance opposed to Microsoft's anti-gamer stuff, this is no surprise.

This is no surprise.


Anti-gamer? why in the world would microsoft release a new console if there were anti gamer? Maybe since microsoft screwed up the messaging on their original plans and the internets irrantional-overly emotional response, perhaps..... just maybe.... there was some bogus information out there. Maybe you should think before you speak.

Microsoft changed plans. They went from online required to no online required. They went from region lock to no region lock. They went anti-used games to pro-used games.

People stood up and let them know what they thought. Preorders told them what gamers thought.

Microsoft accepted it, you should too.


Lol... Online required whats the big problem, I leave my systems connect all the time. I happen to "notice" your on the internet, so whats your problem with?

Really region lock, thats the weakest issue i've ever heard of. Microsfot was never going to ban used games, you could still take your games to gamestop and sell them. you could still walk in to gamestop and buy used games. They were just going to put a licensing system in place and a small fee that goes to the publishers. Thats all it was. None of those make them "Anti-gamer", that just means you're stupid. Well yea pre-orders suffered, it's was a rather large phony controversy. BTW sony was going to implement a similar drm system. Not because they were "anti-gamer", it was to prevent piracy.

 

 

You say, "Anti-Consumer" 

I say, " you're an idiot"

You say, "anti-gamer"

I say, "Never go full retard"

 


Were Microsoft forced to change policies?

Why did Microsoft change policies?

The always on didnt impact me, but it did impact Millions of gamers. The anti-used games stuff didnt impact me, but it did have an impact on Millions of gamers who rely on the used game market. The region locking didnt have an impact on me, but it would have had an impact on many people.

Its not about me or you, its about the market as a whole. The market rejected the One and thats why Microsoft were FORCED to change policies. You can call me an idiot if you want, but youre the one who is being ignorant to what happened and why they had to change.



                            

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S.T.A.G.E. on 07 July 2013
Carl2291 said:
saysuckasay said:
Carl2291 said:
saysuckasay said:
Carl2291 said:
PlayStation is the bigger brand, so anything like this is no surprise.

Enthusiasts vote on things like this, so with Sony's pro-gamer stance opposed to Microsoft's anti-gamer stuff, this is no surprise.

This is no surprise.


Anti-gamer? why in the world would microsoft release a new console if there were anti gamer? Maybe since microsoft screwed up the messaging on their original plans and the internets irrantional-overly emotional response, perhaps..... just maybe.... there was some bogus information out there. Maybe you should think before you speak.

Microsoft changed plans. They went from online required to no online required. They went from region lock to no region lock. They went anti-used games to pro-used games.

People stood up and let them know what they thought. Preorders told them what gamers thought.

Microsoft accepted it, you should too.


Lol... Online required whats the big problem, I leave my systems connect all the time. I happen to "notice" your on the internet, so whats your problem with?

Really region lock, thats the weakest issue i've ever heard of. Microsfot was never going to ban used games, you could still take your games to gamestop and sell them. you could still walk in to gamestop and buy used games. They were just going to put a licensing system in place and a small fee that goes to the publishers. Thats all it was. None of those make them "Anti-gamer", that just means you're stupid. Well yea pre-orders suffered, it's was a rather large phony controversy. BTW sony was going to implement a similar drm system. Not because they were "anti-gamer", it was to prevent piracy.

 

 

You say, "Anti-Consumer" 

I say, " you're an idiot"

You say, "anti-gamer"

I say, "Never go full retard"

 


Were Microsoft forced to change policies?

Why did Microsoft change policies?

The always on didnt impact me, but it did impact Millions of gamers. The anti-used games stuff didnt impact me, but it did have an impact on Millions of gamers who rely on the used game market. The region locking didnt have an impact on me, but it would have had an impact on many people.

Its not about me or you, its about the market as a whole. The market rejected the One and thats why Microsoft were FORCED to change policies. You can call me an idiot if you want, but youre the one who is being ignorant to what happened and why they had to change.


You don't really need to argue about Microsofts initial anti-consumerist policies in the beginning, thats pretty much all fact by now. Microsoft even disappointed many die hards, which is pretty bad. You're right they were forced to change their ways so its not even worth arguing.



thismeintiel on 07 July 2013

It's interesting to see diehard MS fans deny that MS has hurt their brand. Some must honestly think that just because they did a 180, ALL of those Xbox gamers are goin to be crawling right back to them. Nope. Sure, they brought back quite a few, however, it's nowhere near all of them. Heck, considering preorders of the PS4 are STILL ahead of the One on Amazon, even with split SKUs (SKUs that are now moving up in the top 100, as well), and its regularly ahead of the One on Gamestops bestselling list, I see PS4 taking US this holiday. That's not even bringing supply into, either. Something Sony wins on, too.

And sales are only going to grow once the more hardcore gamers have bought their PS4s. With more of the hardcore (in other words, people's friends) having PS4s, and it having no mandatory Kinect, better HW, and at $100 cheaper, the PS4 is going to be gobbled up by the more mainstream gamer. And let's not even talk about how things are going to play out in countries outside the US.



 

Nem on 07 July 2013

Haha... i think we should start pitching the Xbox one with the Wii U. That seems to be the only kind of contest they will see.



tuscaniman99 on 07 July 2013

This poll is about as relevant to console sales as my friends and I are. I know one person buying both a Xbox One and a PS4. I know 5 people buying a Xbox One. So Xbox One will outsell PS4 6-1 in the USA. My friends = / = the world and neither does this poll.



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phinch1 on 07 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
@Carl2291
Playstation may be a bigger brand where your from but in America Xbox is the bigger brand.


sony have sold more consoles in the US than xbox has



Vashyo on 07 July 2013

well they really hurt their brand with the latest decisions and as I've understood they're behind in specs and more expensive. So I don't find this suprising in the slightest, though US/UK results are rather high considering they've been 360s main markets.

One does have that cloud processing though, I have no idea how it would affect gaming, could be just sales hyperbole from MS. Guess we will see.



Xenostar on 07 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
This poll is about as relevant to console sales as my friends and I are. I know one person buying both a Xbox One and a PS4. I know 5 people buying a Xbox One. So Xbox One will outsell PS4 6-1 in the USA. My friends = / = the world and neither does this poll.


No you see youve failed poll 101 there. The more people you have in a poll the more accurate it is. 

Ive not looked into this poll tho, so unless theyve got some robust ways to stop poeple spam voting like captcha, id still take it with a pinch of salt. 

Ps4 is clearly going to outsell the xbox one first year at current prices, but by how much we will have to wait and see. 



colafitte on 07 July 2013

Although i don't think these polls represents the exact reality, especially when they ship at the end of the year, and marketing starts to attract the casuals with multimillion dollar campaigns, anybody can forecast that PS4 will outsell xbox one at least 2:1-3:1 ratio. For me, if PS4 oustell "only" 2:1 worlwide, it will be a success for Sony.



UltimateUnknown on 07 July 2013

Was anyone surprised by this?

The PS4 is pretty much in line this time with the Xbox. Practically same release, LOWER price point, 3rd party games, good architecture and exclusives. Xbox doesn't have any major advantage like it did against the PS3.

Given all the above factors, I think launch sales will see a skew towards PS4 over Xbox. Probably not on such crazy ratios as these, but to some degree. The mass market the Xbox is hoping to get with Kinect won't be buying a $500 console. As for gamers, it's a much easier option to pick the box that costs $100 less.