What? For not listening and saying the same crap you hear from anyone? You realize that I thoroughly went through why this is wrong, right? Oh wait, you didn't because you don't read or even want to listen to the opposing argument. You want to hear what you want to hear. That's nice. 

People who work for family do so due to their own feelings of commitment. They'll throw their own expectations on their children and act as if they're superior because they've worked for the child and therefore the child owes them something. So really, there is no altruistic love. You're working to pidgeonhole an innocent child into commitments they never asked for because they were born from your own stupid commitments.

So don't act like you're special, or more moral, or doing the right thing, or somehow superior because you have 'work ethic'. You're just self-deluded and throwing your own bitter feelings and stress on someone who never asked for it and had no choice.

Oh boohoo, third world countries. As if that has anything to do with the argument and my comparisons with Super-capitalism, better known as Fascism and how it literally drove people to kill others because they were afraid that Jews were stealing their jobs. But hey, go on and act like you're some good guy who must never have any negative feelings and will be blessed with magic land when you die.  

While I have developed a profound hatred of capitalism. That isn't the answer. You cannot change war because you cannot change self-identities and how much land that exists in this world. Property ownership and what you identify yourself as determine how you perceive yourself to the point that you won't realize it most times because you're so use to it. It's part of herd mentality and entirely natural. 

Mhm, part of the reason is that I'm sick of low level jobs. I just want a more pro-active role where I'm actually in a leading position. I absolutely hate the idea of working 10-15 years or even 5-7 years before moving up in the world to a better position. I want it in 1-2 years because I'm sick of jobs where I have to take crap from others.

Yup, sounds like capitalism at it's finest. Forgoing quality for sales and forgetting integrity entirely. 

I agree with his whole post, but if I were to highlight one line it would be "We go on for the good things."  You have to figure out what your "good things" are and work for that reason.  Be it movies, family, games, nature, drawing, what have you.  You go to work, put in your time, and spend your time off.  Thats just the way it is.

I have a good job that I work at for about 45 hours a week, plus 15 hours of commuting a week.  I get about 4 hours a day total in free time, and weekeneds.  With that free time I also need to do errands, clean the house, pay bills, etc.  I don't have a lot of free time (clearly sales2099 has less), but in exchange I get money that I can spend on my "good things".

You clearly don't like this system/don't think its working, so how you would you rather society function?

Also, I feel like your posts/this whole thread is somewhat hinting at suicide ("Why do people bother" - "Might as well get out early") so I would just say if you are super depressed with life maybe seek out a pro that can help you talk this stuff out.  (That wasn't sarcasm or a put down)

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What do you want from life?

Do you want a job which "takes up your time" or do you want to do things you like? I know how you feel about low end jobs, I used to have one, so quit, find something better. Maybe the best you can hope for is a cashier at GameStop, or the grocery store, but hey, that's not bad.

Maybe instead of thinking about kids, you should think about yourself. a) talk to someone real, b) do what you want to do.

All I want to do i play video games, and chill with my girlfriend, and for the most part I do that, so I'm happy. Find what makes you happy, and do it. Maybe you'll become a different person, maybe you'll become something you like.

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that or get an account on plenty of fish and literally f*** your problems away lol. Maybe you'll find out who you are then? Why is sex always the answer?

That's where you differ from others. Some people respect the fact that they have to struggle through several years of low-level jobs and/or schooling before getting into a more satisfying position. And for those that don't respect it, they accept it and deal with it, since the world is inherently unfair; complaining about it is a pointless waste of energy. So they do what they can because they find that the other beauties of life is a fair exchange for their dissatisfaction with their job. Perhaps you don't agree with this mindset, but at least now you know why some people "bother." I hope that answers your question.

The irony and hypocrisy of this post is baffling. First you say this:

Then you go and say this:

First, you scorn someone for "not listening" and for saying only what the person wants to hear. Then, in the same post, you exercise that very behavior.

Where are you getting any evidence that the poster above you works for family "due to his own feelings of self commitment"? Or that he will "pidgenhole an innocent child into commitments." Nowhere does he even imply that he will throw his stress on anyone else. Nor does the post reveal that he acts like some good guy who "will be blessed with magic land" when he dies, since he never even mentioned religion. Clearly you are just making shit up here.

OR you're speaking for all people "work for family." If that's the case then you're problem is even worse. It's a blatant generalization and a false one, too. I have no idea where you got these assumptions from. Since you have nothing to back up these generalizations and/or assertions about the person you quoted, I can only guess you are saying this because "you want to hear what you want to hear", which is literally the exact behavior you condemned earlier. 

Please, if you are going to criticize people, at least make some sort of sense when you do it.

The world isn't fair. There isn't a 'system' in the world that actually is capable of balancing everything out, blaming capitalism which has easily been the most successful system to date seems utterly retarded to me.

Ideally, everyone should just co-exist and the guy picking up the garbage is the same as the guy who performs brain surgery or the guy who lays bricks for the house. Everyone could fulfill a role and would be equals. The problem is and always will be that we all know that the three positions and the requirements to perform the jobs aren't the same. For example, 90% of people on the planet could probably 'pick up garbage but only 5% might be able to perform brain surgery.

Capitalism has plenty of flaws, but the reason why capitalism works is the ability to have mobility in your personal career path, the ability to become a creator or a producer rather than just another cog in the wheel. Create your own business, create your own ideas, make your own way.

That doesn't work. When the economy goes down, there's too few opportunities and jobs out there and the entire expanse goes down too. This is why we had the Great Depression and the more recent market crash. It scares the entire herd because they know it effects them too.