The irony and hypocrisy of this post is baffling. First you say this:

Then you go and say this:

First, you scorn someone for "not listening" and for saying only what the person wants to hear. Then, in the same post, you exercise that very behavior.

Where are you getting any evidence that the poster above you works for family "due to his own feelings of self commitment"? Or that he will "pidgenhole an innocent child into commitments." Nowhere does he even imply that he will throw his stress on anyone else. Nor does the post reveal that he acts like some good guy who "will be blessed with magic land" when he dies, since he never even mentioned religion. Clearly you are just making shit up here.

OR you're speaking for all people "work for family." If that's the case then you're problem is even worse. It's a blatant generalization and a false one, too. I have no idea where you got these assumptions from. Since you have nothing to back up these generalizations and/or assertions about the person you quoted, I can only guess you are saying this because "you want to hear what you want to hear", which is literally the exact behavior you condemned earlier. 

Please, if you are going to criticize people, at least make some sort of sense when you do it.

No, don't give up on seeking God.

Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
(Matthew 19:24)

That doesn't work. When the economy goes down, there's too few opportunities and jobs out there and the entire expanse goes down too. This is why we had the Great Depression and the more recent market crash. It scares the entire herd because they know it effects them too. 

What? For not listening and saying the same crap you hear from anyone? You realize that I thoroughly went through why this is wrong, right? Oh wait, you didn't because you don't read or even want to listen to the opposing argument. You want to hear what you want to hear. That's nice. 

People who work for family do so due to their own feelings of commitment. They'll throw their own expectations on their children and act as if they're superior because they've worked for the child and therefore the child owes them something. So really, there is no altruistic love. You're working to pidgeonhole an innocent child into commitments they never asked for because they were born from your own stupid commitments.

So don't act like you're special, or more moral, or doing the right thing, or somehow superior because you have 'work ethic'. You're just self-deluded and throwing your own bitter feelings and stress on someone who never asked for it and had no choice.

Oh boohoo, third world countries. As if that has anything to do with the argument and my comparisons with Super-capitalism, better known as Fascism and how it literally drove people to kill others because they were afraid that Jews were stealing their jobs. But hey, go on and act like you're some good guy who must never have any negative feelings and will be blessed with magic land when you die.  

I thought I thoroughly went through why your method of complaining about things beyond your control and having a glass-half-empty mindset is only going to negatively impact the rest of your life. Also that the point is to work for the good things in life, no matter how much or little time you make for it.Seeing your response to Jay, you clearly want to have a "pity party"....only hearing others who agree with you and are unwilling to hear people tell you to do better.

I said I work to provide for my future family. No sense of commitment. Only the notion to give them a comfortable life that I feel they deserve. I wouldn't push my work ethic on my future kids and would never use my jobs as a arguing point against my kids. What a ludicrous thought and how dare you assume I would share that mindset.

I am not more special or moral. But I will say I do what I can in this world to give myself and my loved ones a good life. Complaining gets you nowhere. I keep any stress to myself and never take it out on others because they don't deserve it and it is my choice and therefore all on me. I also never mentioned religion. You just assumed I will be a dick to my kids and work hard because I will go to heaven when I die. Sorry, but it is really quite simple: I work alot to provide for the ones I love. Nothing more. "Boohoo 3rd world countries". wow.......talk about taking things for granted.

I noticed you mentioend origionally you worked as a paralegal and now work as a door to door salesman. Thats quite a career shift. Now I can't know what caused this......problem with authority? But clearly you had something and lost it. Makes me wonder if your outlook/attitude had something to do with it. If so.....it pays to be nice to your superiors. Otherwise, you tend to look for other jobs......

"You realize that I thoroughly went through why this is wrong, right?" Oh because to me you don't sound happier, more successful, and with a better outlook on life? Please re-evaluate your definition of "wrong". Don't mean to sound superior, but that comment you said in the face of me genuinely trying to talk to you did prompt me to say this.

In the end, my story did have a moral: work towards a greater goal and change your damn outlook.

PhoenixKing said:

Taking my statements out of context, implying I'm suicidal, and ignoring the part where he says Family, which is clearly a commitment isn't going to make me value your opinion. You act like I'm being a hypocrite but it seems you didn't read his post at all. 

PhoenixKing said:

What? For not listening and saying the same crap you hear from anyone? You realize that I thoroughly went through why this is wrong, right? Oh wait, you didn't because you don't read or even want to listen to the opposing argument. You want to hear what you want to hear. That's nice. 

Fair enough. You have a problem with people who didn't listen and just hear what they want to hear.

People who work for family do so due to their own feelings of commitment. False. He never said he worked for his family due to his own commitment. He later clarified that he is doing it because he has a geniune want to see them happy. You are not listening. They'll throw their own expectations on their children and act as if they're superior because they've worked for the child and therefore the child owes them something. False. He never said he would throw his expectations on his family. You are not listening. So really, there is no altruistic love. Flawed conclusion. You're working to pidgeonhole an innocent child into commitments they never asked for because they were born from your own stupid commitments. False. He never said he would pidgenhole any child into any commitments. You are not listening.

So don't act like you're special, or more moral, or doing the right thing, or somehow superior because you have 'work ethic'. False. He didn't say he was special or more moral. He was answering your fucking question. You wanted to know why people bother, and he answered because it's a fair exchange for the better things in life. You're just self-deluded and throwing your own bitter feelings and stress on someone who never asked for it and had no choice. False. You are not listening. You have no reason to believe he is throwing any of his feelings and stress on anyone else. You are not listening.

Oh boohoo, third world countries. As if that has anything to do with the argument and my comparisons with Super-capitalism, better known as Fascism and how it literally drove people to kill others because they were afraid that Jews were stealing their jobs. But hey, go on and act like you're some good guy who must never have any negative feelings and will be blessed with magic land when you die.  False. He never implied that he will be blessed with magic land when he died. You are not listening

Again, you are 100% wrong. 

1. I never implied you were suicidal.

2. Just because he says "family", doesn't mean he does it out of commitment. He could do it because he loves his family, which he clarified later.

3. I didn't take anything you said out of context. For your convenience, I will post your earlier post here and respond to every piece of what you said:

My responses are in bold.

4. As I have proven above, you do not listen. Therefore, you are a hypocrite.

If you love someone then you commit yourself to that person. It's the same thing. 

What? For not listening and saying the same crap you hear from anyone? You realize that I thoroughly went through why this is wrong, right? Oh wait, you didn't because you don't read or even want to listen to the opposing argument. You want to hear what you want to hear. That's nice. 

Fair enough. You have a problem with people who didn't listen and just hear what they want to hear.

People who work for family do so due to their own feelings of commitment. False. He never said he worked for his family due to his own commitment. He later clarified that he is doing it because he has a geniune want to see them happy. You are not listening. They'll throw their own expectations on their children and act as if they're superior because they've worked for the child and therefore the child owes them something. False. He never said he would throw his expectations on his family. You are not listening. So really, there is no altruistic love. Flawed conclusion. You're working to pidgeonhole an innocent child into commitments they never asked for because they were born from your own stupid commitments. False. He never said he would pidgenhole any child into any commitments. You are not listening.

So don't act like you're special, or more moral, or doing the right thing, or somehow superior because you have 'work ethic'. False. He didn't say he was special or more moral. He was answering your fucking question. You wanted to know why people bother, and he answered because it's a fair exchange for the better things in life. You're just self-deluded and throwing your own bitter feelings and stress on someone who never asked for it and had no choice. False. You are not listening. You have no reason to believe he is throwing any of his feelings and stress on anyone else. You are not listening.

Oh boohoo, third world countries. As if that has anything to do with the argument and my comparisons with Super-capitalism, better known as Fascism and how it literally drove people to kill others because they were afraid that Jews were stealing their jobs. But hey, go on and act like you're some good guy who must never have any negative feelings and will be blessed with magic land when you die.  False. He never implied that he will be blessed with magic land when he died. You are not listening

If that's your definition of commitment, then sure. But if that's the case, there is nothing wrong with commitment. And your statement that "people who work for their family due so out of commitment" is meaningless since it's basically saying "people who work for their family due so out of love" which is fucking obvious.

Also, you have yet to respond to my proof that you are a hypocrite. Here, I'll leave your post here again.

My responses are in bold.

I have proven that you do not listen. Therefore, you are a hypocrite.

And yet it was nihilists and haters like George Washington, John Locke, Abraham Lincoln, Nikolai Tesla, and Albert Einstein who made the greatest changes to improve upon prosperity and lifestyle. Funny that.