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NintendoPie said:
People "throwing" their lives away for "green paper"?

That's utterly ridiculous. Do you know what makes people live a comfortable life? Feed their families? Have a house? Be able to afford medicine? Or do anything that is a privilege to have in a First World Country? (Considering not everyone everywhere has the privileges and security people in First World Countries could/will have.) That "green paper." Yes, that's the answer.

People (well, some do. But I'm talking about the majority.) don't work their butts off just because they want mounds of cash, just because. They work their butts off so they can earn that cash that will afford them comfortable lives, or even get them past in life. People work hard (or maybe what you consider "throw their life away) so they can feed their families, afford rent/mortgage, be able to have fun, etc., etc., etc.

Now, I read most of the rest of your wall of text and I agree with Jay that you have seemed to encounter more bad times than good so maybe this is what lead you to think this way. Negatively. But you shouldn't let bad encounters or anything that might hurt you in any way shape or form affect how you operate. You need to keep trying, life is worth it. There are so many good times that could be had and so many amazing things that you can witness.

yeah,yeah. Keep trying,never give up. blah,blah,blah.blah,is all I here. 



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oldschoolfool said:

yeah,yeah. Keep trying,never give up. blah,blah,blah.blah,is all I here. 

If you really are all up for putting yourself down, then go for it. But all in all, life isn't as bad as people can paint it out to be sometimes.



oldschoolfool said:
This thread is like reading,something that I would write. I'm personally just going through the motions,until I die. I've worked at walmart neighborhood market for 12 years and hate every bit of it. I always act like I care,but that's just to hide the pain of working there. I'll probably have to work until they day I die,which can't be soon enough,as far as I'm concerned. I've been single all my life,so I get paid enough,were I can pay all my bills and have alittle spending money,but all that seems pointless lately. I don't really have any friends. Nobody really cares. Movies and video games are my only joy and escape from this sad world that I live in. Nothing really means anything.

*hugs* We luv you..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

You sound like a great candidate to support a movement like this: http://www.thevenusproject.com/



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^^ Capitalism works towards exploitation, even in the "trade" mindset, because someone's going to operate from an advantageous position. The employer-employee relationship should be an equal trade of labor for money, but then you have something like: "You can take this job or not, i'll still make money either way," giving individual laborers a massive disadvantage because they're competing with each other at the same time as they try to negotiate with the employer. The notions of laissez faire were cultivated about 100 years before real, modern manufacturing came around (and about 200 years separated from our current status).

To the OP, i feel your pain. It seems like you have to fight like hell even for a shitty, exploitative job (story of my post-college career; unemployment or some real crap.

And my complaint of "crap" has nothing to do with pay rate, per se. I've worked low-paying jobs that i still loved (still hoping i can get back in with Gamestop, which i honestly enjoyed). The best-paying job i had so far i hated, and that was before they fired me for ill-founded reasons, leaving me with a three month gap in my employment history that i have to act like it never happened (because jobs look for any excuse to not hire you, and being fired really puts you low down the priority list).

My advice: have a plan. If you don't have an education, get one. If you do, find out how to leverage it.

In my case, I have options. I can go back to school (although i'd still have to find one of these elusive low-level jobs that won't overlook me due to being overqualified), I can try again to go teach English in Japan (interview's in mid-August), and if all else fails, I can join the military: they like college graduates with clean criminal records, and i do fit that (despite my socialism, i'm not anti-war or anti-military), and through the military get further skills that will go great with my International Relations degree.

I say this not to attention-whore, but to say that you need to have a dream job (or at least a general field you feel you would enjoy and is attainable), then figure out how to attain it, and you can do that by cultivating your skills. Because yes, jobs without demand for skills or qualifications usually suck (and suck in ways more than compensation, but are exploitative or soul-crushing). You need to plan medium-term goals for the next 6 months to four years, and then it's easier to deal with the crap jobs, because you *know* that it's only temporary, and *know* it's for a bigger goal.

A side note on agreement with your OP, it sounds to me like you're (and i hate using this term, but it's quickest and easiest to identify) a Type B personality. Believe me, that does not work for Sales positions. They want Type A personalities, the kind of person that can turn on "Charm and Personality" like a lightswitch, and who can easily fake it. More neurotic, more introspective, more deliberate people do not work well in these positions.



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oldschoolfool said:
This thread is like reading,something that I would write. I'm personally just going through the motions,until I die. I've worked at walmart neighborhood market for 12 years and hate every bit of it. I always act like I care,but that's just to hide the pain of working there. I'll probably have to work until they day I die,which can't be soon enough,as far as I'm concerned. I've been single all my life,so I get paid enough,were I can pay all my bills and have alittle spending money,but all that seems pointless lately. I don't really have any friends. Nobody really cares. Movies and video games are my only joy and escape from this sad world that I live in. Nothing really means anything.

Like my advice to the OP: you should make a plan. If you've got money set aside, go to a technical school part-time. An Associate's degree in Accounting, for instance, could get you into a better job and you could get it decently quickly (18-24 months). A better job could give you more confidence, and thus fix some of your social problems.

Some of your options might be a little ugly, especially in the short term, but there's always a path to self-betterment.



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oldschoolfool said:
This thread is like reading,something that I would write. I'm personally just going through the motions,until I die. I've worked at walmart neighborhood market for 12 years and hate every bit of it. I always act like I care,but that's just to hide the pain of working there. I'll probably have to work until they day I die,which can't be soon enough,as far as I'm concerned. I've been single all my life,so I get paid enough,were I can pay all my bills and have alittle spending money,but all that seems pointless lately. I don't really have any friends. Nobody really cares. Movies and video games are my only joy and escape from this sad world that I live in. Nothing really means anything.


And whose fault is that?



Your a door to door salesman? Man I feel bad for you, I was a Sales Account agent over the phone and my boss would always tell me "Do onto others, what good service you want to be done to you". Sounds good right? Only he meant sell them all the add ons and warranty that the customer may not need or does not have enough money for. Hey! There is credit card he says.

Suffice to say after 2 yrs I quit that and became a Customer Support agent for a gaming company. Which generates less income but is far more fun than being a sales guy.



sales2099 said:
So much to say on this. First I have to ask how old you are. Because your age and where you are in life right now can impact your viewpoint.

I work 2 jobs, one at a administrative position at a University and another as a department lead/forklift driver for a warehouse wholesale store for a total of 70 hours per week. The 3 nights I have off per week I spend with my very supportive girlfriend. Sometimes I spend two nights a week with her because I spend the third with my friends. Family time is restricted to the 20 minutes when I come home from 11:30 - 11:50. I sleep and my day repeats all over again.

I have a $520 000 house with a combined $3000 per month mortgage/loan payments. Bills are a lot and I work alot but I do it because I chose this lifestyle and i will do whatever it takes to maintain it. My choice. I could only work one job and get a basement apartment or even a cheap condo. But I want better things and therefore I am willing to sacrifice a lot of free time to earn my ideal lifestyle. Also to provide for my future family.

Complaining about capitalism, government, what's wrong in the world, etc. gets you nowhere. Just placing blame on things that aren't yourself. The world ain't fair and you have to stop whining and start adapting. Try living in a 3rd world country....THAT'S suffering. Your spoiled and you don't even know it with more opportunities then you know exist.

Questioning going on, that is what really bothers me. We don't all people stuck in a endless cycle of work just kill themselves? We go on for the good things. Raising a family and watching them grow, connecting with family, friends, and other loved ones. No matter how much I work, I always find the time, no matter how little, to enjoy the little things like gaming and just going out for a drink.

The first thing you have to change is your outlook. This isn't a utopian society, you have to earn your way in this world. I am currently typing this while working at my university job. I'm good at multitasking this; I answered and helped 7 students while typing this. If you aren't working at a job right now, I suggest getting to work.

Wow bravo.  Great post.  I secretly disagree with you on many game related subjects, but god I love this post.  Keep it up man.



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