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sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:

 


It hurts MS case that its on any other platform. Ever heard the case that if one owns a Sony platform with a PC they woulc overlook the Xbox as an option unless they are a Halo or Gears fan? It hurt MS just like when they were dumb enough to allow Halo to be on PC. It also hurts that I recently finished playing Alan Wake for $4. Says so much for all they paid to hold back from the rest of us. Quantum Break will more likely follow suit.

The way I see it, the customer wouldn't buy on Xbox anyway, so a PC purchase just means one less PS4 copy. So when the X1 and PS4 game sales are compared, the results will be very telling.

So what you are saying is that PS gamers need a gaming PC or else it can't stand up to X1 on its own? Cause thats what your telling me. I find it more rare and rare to find a PS gamer only using PS consoles when making a counter to X1 nowadays.

Of course Playstation can stand up to the Xbox on its own, its called first party. Everyone says third party exclusives keep dwindling but as long as MS is in the gaming industry third party exclusives will continue to run rampant, especially at the beginning of the gen. These are the same tactics they used this gen for the first three years of the 360's lifespan. I bought all of those games too like the Condemned, Bioshock and others. You can't use the counter argument of exclusives in the same context as you do MS as far as PC exclusives are concerned such as Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, Kotor1 &2, Jade Empire, Alan Wake, Minecraft, Divinity, Witcher 2....yes I've played them all on the Xbox and Xbox 360 . MS popularized taking PC exclusives to make up for their inadequate first party for two generations now. They screwed Sony gamers out of Gears of War, and oh yeah...if Sony were to ever get a timed exclusive on them you're screwed because their policy doesn't allow for late games. 



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:


I don't see how that could please MS if they never published the PC version. Its just dirty fighting just like they did with Dead Rising. They don't even own Crytek either. Mark you, I believe the game is a timed exclusive. Angry Joe spoke to the lead developers of Titanfall and it when questioned about whether it will be on the PS4 they opted not to speak. If it was confirmed that there is no PS4 version he would've outright said no. Prepare for further news.

By getting the PC version thats one less sale for the PS4 version, if any. Ergo, MS wins.


It hurts MS case that its on any other platform. Ever heard the case that if one owns a Sony platform with a PC they woulc overlook the Xbox as an option unless they are a Halo or Gears fan? It hurt MS just like when they were dumb enough to allow Halo to be on PC. It also hurts that I recently finished playing Alan Wake for $4. Says so much for all they paid to hold back from the rest of us. Quantum Break will more likely follow suit.


The other platform is Microsoft Windows.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:

 


It hurts MS case that its on any other platform. Ever heard the case that if one owns a Sony platform with a PC they woulc overlook the Xbox as an option unless they are a Halo or Gears fan? It hurt MS just like when they were dumb enough to allow Halo to be on PC. It also hurts that I recently finished playing Alan Wake for $4. Says so much for all they paid to hold back from the rest of us. Quantum Break will more likely follow suit.

The way I see it, the customer wouldn't buy on Xbox anyway, so a PC purchase just means one less PS4 copy. So when the X1 and PS4 game sales are compared, the results will be very telling.

So what you are saying is that PS gamers need a gaming PC or else it can't stand up to X1 on its own? Cause thats what your telling me. I find it more rare and rare to find a PS gamer only using PS consoles when making a counter to X1 nowadays.

Of course Playstation can stand up to the Xbox on its own, its called first party. Everyone says third party exclusives keep dwindling but as long as MS is in the gaming industry third party exclusives will continue to run rampant, especially at the beginning of the gen. These are the same tactics they used this gen for the first three years of the 360's lifespan. I bought all of those games too like the Condemned, Bioshock and others. You can't use the counter argument of exclusives in the same context as you do MS as far as PC exclusives are concerned such as Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, Kotor1 &2, Jade Empire, Alan Wake, Minecraft, Divinity, Witcher 2....yes I've played them all on the Xbox and Xbox 360 . MS popularized taking PC exclusives to make up for their inadequate first party for two generations now. They screwed Sony gamers out of Gears of War, and oh yeah...if Sony were to ever get a timed exclusive on them you're screwed because their policy doesn't allow for late games. 

Your history lesson about MS stills fails to acknowledge the strides they are obviously making in their own 1st party software. 3rd party exclusives/timed + their 1st party games are a winning strategy and sustainable, unlike 360s strategy



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 


It hurts MS case that its on any other platform. Ever heard the case that if one owns a Sony platform with a PC they woulc overlook the Xbox as an option unless they are a Halo or Gears fan? It hurt MS just like when they were dumb enough to allow Halo to be on PC. It also hurts that I recently finished playing Alan Wake for $4. Says so much for all they paid to hold back from the rest of us. Quantum Break will more likely follow suit.


The other platform is Microsoft Windows.


And that kind of goes without saying doesnt it? MS isn't making publishing dollars off of it, so whats your point in the context of the issue?



sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:

Of course Playstation can stand up to the Xbox on its own, its called first party. Everyone says third party exclusives keep dwindling but as long as MS is in the gaming industry third party exclusives will continue to run rampant, especially at the beginning of the gen. These are the same tactics they used this gen for the first three years of the 360's lifespan. I bought all of those games too like the Condemned, Bioshock and others. You can't use the counter argument of exclusives in the same context as you do MS as far as PC exclusives are concerned such as Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, Kotor1 &2, Jade Empire, Alan Wake, Minecraft, Divinity, Witcher 2....yes I've played them all on the Xbox and Xbox 360 . MS popularized taking PC exclusives to make up for their inadequate first party for two generations now. They screwed Sony gamers out of Gears of War, and oh yeah...if Sony were to ever get a timed exclusive on them you're screwed because their policy doesn't allow for late games. 

Your history lesson about MS stills fails to acknowledge the strides they are obviously making in their own 1st party software. 3rd party exclusives/timed + their 1st party games are a winning strategy and sustainable, unlike 360s strategy


Their strides in making first party have been happening and failed for two generations now. The new approach is to create new studios of their own because they tend to close down studios or have people leave them. Now that they are finally thinking properly by creating home grown studios we can at least get one good new IP out of their first party now from Black Tusk and I hope that hoping for the best doesn't jinx them. On the orignal Xbox Halo was the game, If their first party was so great, they wouldn't need to constantly go after third party exclusives, but theres a gaping hole in the quality of how most of their games turned out and theres a reason for it. Lets see if they can fix it this gen because I haven't seen very many first party titles from them, but rather from third party. 



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Runa216 said:

I was actually really looking forward to Titan Fall until I heard they weren't including a campaign.  That could have been awesome, but nope, Call of Duty as ruined the genre.  Now it's just the same game ad nauseum with new maps.  

I'm not giving up on the FPS genre, but it'll take a lot to convince me to get back into it.  RPG elements, a solid campaign, and maybe some originality are all nice.  This is why Borderlands 2 was so awesome.  It was unique and original WITHOUT needing mechs.  

FPS is one of the most diversified and rich genre. Just because Titanfall is doing something different it's not a bad thing.

It will still have a story but not in a conventional way. The Division is the same thing but only TPS.

I don't like Borderland series, if all the game was like it, I wouldn't play FPS.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:

Of course Playstation can stand up to the Xbox on its own, its called first party. Everyone says third party exclusives keep dwindling but as long as MS is in the gaming industry third party exclusives will continue to run rampant, especially at the beginning of the gen. These are the same tactics they used this gen for the first three years of the 360's lifespan. I bought all of those games too like the Condemned, Bioshock and others. You can't use the counter argument of exclusives in the same context as you do MS as far as PC exclusives are concerned such as Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, Kotor1 &2, Jade Empire, Alan Wake, Minecraft, Divinity, Witcher 2....yes I've played them all on the Xbox and Xbox 360 . MS popularized taking PC exclusives to make up for their inadequate first party for two generations now. They screwed Sony gamers out of Gears of War, and oh yeah...if Sony were to ever get a timed exclusive on them you're screwed because their policy doesn't allow for late games. 

Your history lesson about MS stills fails to acknowledge the strides they are obviously making in their own 1st party software. 3rd party exclusives/timed + their 1st party games are a winning strategy and sustainable, unlike 360s strategy


Their strides in making first party have been happening and failed for two generations now. The new approach is to create new studios of their own because they tend to close down studios or have people leave them. Now that they are finally thinking properly by creating home grown studios we can at least get one good new IP out of their first party now from Black Tusk and I hope that hoping for the best doesn't jinx them. On the orignal Xbox Halo was the game, If their first party was so great, they wouldn't need to constantly go after third party exclusives, but theres a gaping hole in the quality of how most of their games turned out and theres a reason for it. Lets see if they can fix it this gen because I haven't seen very many first party titles from them, but rather from third party. 

Loyalty free indeed, dismissing MS for things that may or may not even happen this gen.

So far, Black Tusk and Project Spark show me that they are going somewhere with this gen positively.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Goatseye said:
Runa216 said:
 

I was actually really looking forward to Titan Fall until I heard they weren't including a campaign.  That could have been awesome, but nope, Call of Duty as ruined the genre.  Now it's just the same game ad nauseum with new maps.  

I'm not giving up on the FPS genre, but it'll take a lot to convince me to get back into it.  RPG elements, a solid campaign, and maybe some originality are all nice.  This is why Borderlands 2 was so awesome.  It was unique and original WITHOUT needing mechs.  

FPS is one of the most diversified and rich genre. Just because Titanfall is doing something different it's not a bad thing.

It will still have a story but not in a conventional way. The Division is the same thing but only TPS.

I don't like Borderland series, if all the game was like it, I wouldn't play FPS.

The FPS genre is NOT one of the most diversified or rich genres.  Just becuase there are a lot doesn't mean there's depth.  How many modern warfare oriented games ahve their been?  How many Sci Fi alien games?  how many World War 2 games.  There's not a lot of depth, and adding something like mechs only slightly alters the gameplay.  Frankly, the shit you could do in Borderlands was far more innovative and creative.  

And please do explain how it will have a story.  It might have a backstory, but multiplayer-only games don't really tend to have a cohesive narrative. 



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MS showed the best games this time and they better keep the good exclusives in the future



I just hope MS does this every E3 show off great games that people want to see.