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JayWood2010 said:
green_sky said:
How the hell did this thread get to 17 pages. This "non issue" even made my local newspaper which happens to be a national newspaper. So yea i don't really get the appeal of this requiring in depth discussion.

It is a big deal though.  I don't think what she said is a big deal but heading in to next gen this is a huge deal.  This is the first game that has portayed people very accurately as people being animated and facial expressions etc while copying Ellen Page.  This type of thing is cashing in on someone's popularity without paying them and in some cases could hurt those actors reputation based on if the game was good or bad, and because games are becoming more realistic with animations, graphics, and acting you can not just ripoff someone.  If these things continues expect laws to be changed for these type of things as video games are now a form of entertainment just like movies.

The final iteration doesn't look like her though. They knew they made a mistake with a reveal trailer and changed the facial features. So why is this being discussed in June of 2013 and not in December of 2011. 



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green_sky said:
JayWood2010 said:
green_sky said:
How the hell did this thread get to 17 pages. This "non issue" even made my local newspaper which happens to be a national newspaper. So yea i don't really get the appeal of this requiring in depth discussion.

It is a big deal though.  I don't think what she said is a big deal but heading in to next gen this is a huge deal.  This is the first game that has portayed people very accurately as people being animated and facial expressions etc while copying Ellen Page.  This type of thing is cashing in on someone's popularity without paying them and in some cases could hurt those actors reputation based on if the game was good or bad, and because games are becoming more realistic with animations, graphics, and acting you can not just ripoff someone.  If these things continues expect laws to be changed for these type of things as video games are now a form of entertainment just like movies.

The final iteration doesn't look like her though. They knew they made a mistake with a reveal trailer and changed the facial features. So why is this being discussed in June of 2013 and not in December of 2011. 


Because they still look very much a like and people still see this.




       

JayWood2010 said:

Because they still look very much a like and people still see this.

I disagree but atleast now i know how this thread got so big. 



Thread still going strong much about nothing but here's a question:

where the hell are those billions of people that look like her???





Talal said:
That comment by her pissed me off. So what the character looks like her.

First of all, it's obvious she and her management have a problem with her likeness being ripped off without acquiring permission to do so.



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Andrespetmonkey said:
betacon said:
Am I the only one which thinks the boy from 'the road" has more similarities with Ellie than Ellen Page?

yes


That boy is the biggest pussy I've ever seen in a movie. Ellie has 10 times the balls he has



Jumpin said:
Talal said:
That comment by her pissed me off. So what the character looks like her.

First of all, it's obvious she and her management have a problem with her likeness being ripped off without acquiring permission to do so.


That's the thing. It's not her "likeness". She doesn't own the rights to a short skinny brunette girl with a small nose.



http://transitmaps.tumblr.com/post/53696766419/boston-theft

My Boston T map used in “The Last of Us” PS3 game without permission or payment — Naughty Dog has been NAUGHTY

The top image above is apparently a screen capture of a new Playstation 3 game called “The Last of Us” developed by a company called Naughty Dog and released on June 14, 2013. According to Wikipedia, the game has received several “perfect” scores from game review sites and has had the biggest gaming launch of 2013, with 1.3 million units sold in its first week.

The lower image is, of course, my redesign for the Boston T map, which I first posted on the internet on March 11, 2012. Notice any similarities?

Basically, I’m fucking furious.

For a software developer — especially a big developer working on a blockbuster title like this — to casually appropriate someone else’s work and incorporate it into their game without any discussion with the owner of that work is completely unacceptable. (Not to mention hugely ironic, as the software industry is always complaining about piracy of their work.)

Naughty Dog seems to have known that they couldn’t use the official map without paying a hefty license fee, so it looks like they just went on the internet and found another one. Cos, you know, images on the internet are free for anyone to use, right? Not.

To be clear: at no point have Naughty Dog contacted me about using my intellectual property (this visual representation of the Boston rapid transit network) in their product.

To be even more clear: if you want to use my work commercially, payment before usage is required. If you’re making money from your product, then you can pay me for my work as well.

I am attempting to open communications with them now to ask where they came across the image, how it ended up in their game (with very pointed questions about their approvals and legal process), and what kind of compensation I can expect for the theft of my work.

Source: Randomly-discovered tweet (I keep track of tweets with the phrase “subway map” in them) from @Neo781, who praises the map as showing Naughty Dog’s attention to detail.

“Wow they actually accurately portray the subway map of Mass and have all the colors and names of stops correct.”, he says; to which @gavshen replies, “That’s Naughty Dog for you.”

Yep, that’s Naughty Dog: stealing my work and taking the credit for it.

Presence of my map in the game also confirmed by this post on a forum board.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Apparently this has been out there for a few days, but I just found out myself. Thought it was relevant.



noname2200 said:

http://transitmaps.tumblr.com/post/53696766419/boston-theft

My Boston T map used in “The Last of Us” PS3 game without permission or payment — Naughty Dog has been NAUGHTY

The top image above is apparently a screen capture of a new Playstation 3 game called “The Last of Us” developed by a company called Naughty Dog and released on June 14, 2013. According to Wikipedia, the game has received several “perfect” scores from game review sites and has had the biggest gaming launch of 2013, with 1.3 million units sold in its first week.

The lower image is, of course, my redesign for the Boston T map, which I first posted on the internet on March 11, 2012. Notice any similarities?

Basically, I’m fucking furious.

For a software developer — especially a big developer working on a blockbuster title like this — to casually appropriate someone else’s work and incorporate it into their game without any discussion with the owner of that work is completely unacceptable. (Not to mention hugely ironic, as the software industry is always complaining about piracy of their work.)

Naughty Dog seems to have known that they couldn’t use the official map without paying a hefty license fee, so it looks like they just went on the internet and found another one. Cos, you know, images on the internet are free for anyone to use, right? Not.

To be clear: at no point have Naughty Dog contacted me about using my intellectual property (this visual representation of the Boston rapid transit network) in their product.

To be even more clear: if you want to use my work commercially, payment before usage is required. If you’re making money from your product, then you can pay me for my work as well.

I am attempting to open communications with them now to ask where they came across the image, how it ended up in their game (with very pointed questions about their approvals and legal process), and what kind of compensation I can expect for the theft of my work.

Source: Randomly-discovered tweet (I keep track of tweets with the phrase “subway map” in them) from @Neo781, who praises the map as showing Naughty Dog’s attention to detail.

“Wow they actually accurately portray the subway map of Mass and have all the colors and names of stops correct.”, he says; to which @gavshen replies, “That’s Naughty Dog for you.”

Yep, that’s Naughty Dog: stealing my work and taking the credit for it.

Presence of my map in the game also confirmed by this post on a forum board.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Apparently this has been out there for a few days, but I just found out myself. Thought it was relevant.


This I agree was a fuck up by ND. I still think it's very strange though that you have to pay to include a map. Also, this person is a cry baby. :p



Talal said:
noname2200 said:

http://transitmaps.tumblr.com/post/53696766419/boston-theft

My Boston T map used in “The Last of Us” PS3 game without permission or payment — Naughty Dog has been NAUGHTY

The top image above is apparently a screen capture of a new Playstation 3 game called “The Last of Us” developed by a company called Naughty Dog and released on June 14, 2013. According to Wikipedia, the game has received several “perfect” scores from game review sites and has had the biggest gaming launch of 2013, with 1.3 million units sold in its first week.

The lower image is, of course, my redesign for the Boston T map, which I first posted on the internet on March 11, 2012. Notice any similarities?

Basically, I’m fucking furious.

For a software developer — especially a big developer working on a blockbuster title like this — to casually appropriate someone else’s work and incorporate it into their game without any discussion with the owner of that work is completely unacceptable. (Not to mention hugely ironic, as the software industry is always complaining about piracy of their work.)

Naughty Dog seems to have known that they couldn’t use the official map without paying a hefty license fee, so it looks like they just went on the internet and found another one. Cos, you know, images on the internet are free for anyone to use, right? Not.

To be clear: at no point have Naughty Dog contacted me about using my intellectual property (this visual representation of the Boston rapid transit network) in their product.

To be even more clear: if you want to use my work commercially, payment before usage is required. If you’re making money from your product, then you can pay me for my work as well.

I am attempting to open communications with them now to ask where they came across the image, how it ended up in their game (with very pointed questions about their approvals and legal process), and what kind of compensation I can expect for the theft of my work.

Source: Randomly-discovered tweet (I keep track of tweets with the phrase “subway map” in them) from @Neo781, who praises the map as showing Naughty Dog’s attention to detail.

“Wow they actually accurately portray the subway map of Mass and have all the colors and names of stops correct.”, he says; to which @gavshen replies, “That’s Naughty Dog for you.”

Yep, that’s Naughty Dog: stealing my work and taking the credit for it.

Presence of my map in the game also confirmed by this post on a forum board.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Apparently this has been out there for a few days, but I just found out myself. Thought it was relevant.


This I agree was a fuck up by ND. I still think it's very strange though that you have to pay to include a map. Also, this person is a cry baby. :p


Why? If that person used some images from ND, i don't think they would like it.



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