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MDMAlliance on 22 June 2013
Spazzy_D said:
I'm just not updating my 3DS firmware... it is only for DS games, not 3DS games, by the way. I'm also going to point out that I use a flashcard because I download all my 3DS games digitally, and between that and having the ability to play my DS games on the card, I don't have to ever change out games. I also physically own all the DS games on the card. Still, I understand why they are doing it.


Where did you read that from?  It clearly said 3DS on the article.

Also that's a really dumb reason for defending flashcards.  The 3DS has a lot of support for downloading your retail games onto your SD card, that should be enough.



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naruball on 22 June 2013
Goatseye said:
acdcste said:
Goatseye said:

Is piracy consumer rights? I bet you want DRM on 3ds because of this.


Im assuming he was joking. If not though blocking a flashcard in no way infringes on gamers rights. The only people who buy these things are the people who will never ever pay for a game, thus hurting the very companies they "support".

I'm pretty sure he was mocking people that were pro "DRMless" XB1

You are wrong. My comment has nothing to do with xbone. I was mocking all the pirates who use consumers rights as an excuse to modify consoles and then claim that they didn't have piracy in mind when they modified the console (ps3, 360, psp, ds etc, but mostly ps3 and linux). Even if that's truly not their primary purpose, they know damn well that their actions leave those consoles open to piracy. While I do use emulators myself (for games about 20 years old), I still hate video game piracy with passion, considering how cheap most games are available for nowadays (especially pc games through steam).

I hope this works for Ninty for the sake of the developers. 



Screamapillar on 22 June 2013

This is a good thing. One of the reasons third-party publishers particularly in the west have been reluctant to develop games for 3DS is because of what happened to DS with piracy in 2009-present. The software market just collapsed and games stopped selling. Prevalent piracy will kill 3DS software support if it ever happens. We've already heard from Renegade Kid that they would drop 3DS like a rock if piracy ever became prevalent on it.



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Spazzy_D on 22 June 2013
MDMAlliance said:
Spazzy_D said:
I'm just not updating my 3DS firmware... it is only for DS games, not 3DS games, by the way. I'm also going to point out that I use a flashcard because I download all my 3DS games digitally, and between that and having the ability to play my DS games on the card, I don't have to ever change out games. I also physically own all the DS games on the card. Still, I understand why they are doing it.


Where did you read that from?  It clearly said 3DS on the article.

Also that's a really dumb reason for defending flashcards.  The 3DS has a lot of support for downloading your retail games onto your SD card, that should be enough.

No flash card worked for 3DS games for the longest time, they worked for DS games on the 3DS only, so Nintendo was not losing sales on 3DS game because of it (although they still sell DS games, the effect was not the same.)  Apparently this had changed in the past month of so (just skimmed the opening post, sorry.)  I chose not to upgrade my firmware because I don't feel like dragging all my DS games around.  I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying Nintendo is wrong in doing this, it is absolutley what they should do to combat piracey.  It's just not going to stop me from doing what I do.



Lucas-Rio on 23 June 2013
Spazzy_D said:
MDMAlliance said:
Spazzy_D said:
I'm just not updating my 3DS firmware... it is only for DS games, not 3DS games, by the way. I'm also going to point out that I use a flashcard because I download all my 3DS games digitally, and between that and having the ability to play my DS games on the card, I don't have to ever change out games. I also physically own all the DS games on the card. Still, I understand why they are doing it.


Where did you read that from?  It clearly said 3DS on the article.

Also that's a really dumb reason for defending flashcards.  The 3DS has a lot of support for downloading your retail games onto your SD card, that should be enough.

No flash card worked for 3DS games for the longest time, they worked for DS games on the 3DS only, so Nintendo was not losing sales on 3DS game because of it (although they still sell DS games, the effect was not the same.)  Apparently this had changed in the past month of so (just skimmed the opening post, sorry.)  I chose not to upgrade my firmware because I don't feel like dragging all my DS games around.  I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying Nintendo is wrong in doing this, it is absolutley what they should do to combat piracey.  It's just not going to stop me from doing what I do.

Then says goodbye to online play, eshop and all future games.

People like you who would rather buy a 80$ device + the price of SD cards than buying legit games are losers and rats. That's what I think. I am glad Nintendo is owning the piracy scene so much with the 3DS.

With all the security, the update, the online, piracy will never become big on 3DS and the sales won't be impacted.



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Spazzy_D on 23 June 2013
Lucas-Rio said:
Spazzy_D said:
MDMAlliance said:
Spazzy_D said:
I'm just not updating my 3DS firmware... it is only for DS games, not 3DS games, by the way. I'm also going to point out that I use a flashcard because I download all my 3DS games digitally, and between that and having the ability to play my DS games on the card, I don't have to ever change out games. I also physically own all the DS games on the card. Still, I understand why they are doing it.


Where did you read that from?  It clearly said 3DS on the article.

Also that's a really dumb reason for defending flashcards.  The 3DS has a lot of support for downloading your retail games onto your SD card, that should be enough.

No flash card worked for 3DS games for the longest time, they worked for DS games on the 3DS only, so Nintendo was not losing sales on 3DS game because of it (although they still sell DS games, the effect was not the same.)  Apparently this had changed in the past month of so (just skimmed the opening post, sorry.)  I chose not to upgrade my firmware because I don't feel like dragging all my DS games around.  I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying Nintendo is wrong in doing this, it is absolutley what they should do to combat piracey.  It's just not going to stop me from doing what I do.

Then says goodbye to online play, eshop and all future games.

People like you who would rather buy a 80$ device + the price of SD cards than buying legit games are losers and rats. That's what I think. I am glad Nintendo is owning the piracy scene so much with the 3DS.

With all the security, the update, the online, piracy will never become big on 3DS and the sales won't be impacted.

Did you read anything I wrote? I'm a rat because I want to use a device I purchased the way I want to use it?  I OWN EVERYONE OF THE GAMES I PLAY.  It is just all of my old DS games, which I still own, on that card.  I bought the 3DS day one, and I own more then 30 3DS games on it if you add virtual console (but not ambassador) and E-shop titles... which I own digitally.  If push comes to shove, I will just not use this card if it effects me using the E-shop, and now that I've looked into  it seems like this block is for the new 3DS flash cart which I have no intention of owning anyway.



thismeintiel on 23 June 2013

Not sure why this is news worthy. With every FW update, flash cards have been disabled. Of course, it only takes the hackers a matter of weeks before they have bypassed the security, again. I should know, I have one. Mostly just for emulating old systems. It's awesome playing the classics on a handheld, lol. Got my PSP hacked for the very same reason.



 

Lucas-Rio on 23 June 2013
thismeintiel said:
Not sure why this is news worthy. With every FW update, flash cards have been disabled. Of course, it only takes the hackers a matter of weeks before they have bypassed the security, again. I should know, I have one. Mostly just for emulating old systems. It's awesome playing the classics on a handheld, lol. Got my PSP hacked for the very same reason.


Not exactly.  There are firmware updated making flashcard unusable by just being another version of the firmare, and then it's easy to overcome. But there are firmware update blacklisting hardware components or fixing security holes.

Nintendo probably did the second since the device wasn't even out. If the hole that the device exploited isn't here anymore, then the whole process is to be restarted.

DS piracy was huge because it was incredibly easy. Random people could buy a linker in the marketplace, and fill dozen of Roms on it and it would work easily for all the console life. Firmware couldn't be updated.

Now, two years and half after the 3DS was released, a team announce they will release a 80$ device, which will need additonally 1 flashcard per pirated game. And the best, it's blocked by the new firmware update even before its release. So no new games, no eshop, no online and it will be useless with the future 3DS console as well.

3DS piracy will never become popular with so much security. Nintendo did a great job protecting its console and its software profits.



Conegamer on 23 June 2013

Good stuff. Piracy is awful, especially in the gaming business.



 

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LemonSlice on 23 June 2013
acdcste said:

The only people who buy these things are the people who will never ever pay for a game, thus hurting the very companies they "support".


So not true...

Having all my DS games on a single flashcart with me is very, very convenient. Add to that backing up/downloading saves, cheats, quicksave, undubs, fan translations, homebrew... many many awesome things that a flashcart can enable.

Also when my DS got stolen, I was very glad I lost just the flashcart instead of many of my games on cartridges.