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Forums - Gaming - Microsoft will put DRM and restricting used game policies in the next xbox, mark my words.

Hate to burst some peoples bubble. Sony has already publicly stated they will be going all digital. Just a matter of when. They felt it was too early to do this gen.



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bananaking21 said:
 

 

at the start of the gen thats how sony and mircosoft have done bussines, but after a few years they start to make money off of the hardware. the PS3 has been making a profit on hardware after early 2010 and that is with an extremely expensive to build piece of hardware. The Wii/DS has made shitloads off of hardware alone.

you keep talking about these benifits of DRM and always online yet i dont see microsoft doing any of them with the xbox 1. "Software and everything you purchase thoughr lives on (since its digital and transferrable). " yet i see no backwards compatiblity with the xbox1. i see no cheaper prices on xbox live and i see no advantages what so ever. microsoft is all talk about the advantages with no action. but when it comes to restrictions and anti-consumer policies they are all in for it. but of course, you will never admit it nor will you stop this defending it, you have your own reason and i honestly dont care for it. things are laid out in a very simple manner for you but we both know what your reaction will be like

No backwards compatibility is a much bigger crime than DRM in my opinion. I've made many posts about that... I don't care what the technical limitations are, they should figure out a way.

However the only thing that saves microsoft and sony from complete lashing in terms of not offering backwards compatibility is the fact that last gen consoles were physical medium based with a fun, side business of offering downloadable titles. There is no always on, no syncing with the cloud on xbox 360, for my purchases to be available. The console was never designed to take advantage of digital and never promissed to offer digital cloud based gaming.

As far as "Xbox Live has no sales" -

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Promotion/Special-Sales

Fable 3 is currently absolutely free for digital download if you're a gold member. Lots of great sales of great games are available on xbox live, you are just to busy with other stuff to notice or turn the blind eye to them.



@disolitude digital is only better when u can access it with various forms of hardware... Consoles have nit come to that point yet to be reliable in that regard especially in future sense



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

papamudd said:
@disolitude digital is only better when u can access it with various forms of hardware... Consoles have nit come to that point yet to be reliable in that regard especially in future sense

You are absolutely correct.

 But with that said, I was hoping to get a head start with the Xbox One. I see lots of different hardware being able to play Xbox One titles in the next 20 years.

Like I don't get it...before this DRM change, did people think that in 7-8 years Microsoft is going to stop and say:

"Everyone stop what you are doing! Here is a new piece of hardware with new DRM. Please rebuy all your digital titles that you already bought and are following you through the cloud because now they have to go through a different cloud"

Makes me wonder if people are in touch with reality if they think Microsoft is going to shut down servers and move to a different cloud next gen...

Now after the DRM change, I don't know WTF is going to happen with the Xbox. It works the same way as the old Xbox360 so they can pull some BS and reset the whole thing. Half the titles will be digital while the other half physical...they may do some crazy, jump through hoops policy where you mail them the physical game and they give you a digital coupon. God knows... When there is no platform consistency, the whole experience tends to get diluted.

I'd love to argue intelligently with someone about this...instead of the usual "DRM is the devil!! You're a fanboy".



Yah that's good, nothing left to complain about the Xbox One so you decided to start new bashing threads about the future Xbox (Xbox Two?)... Dude you need to find something else to do with your free time :)



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Regardless of what people want, movies, games, and music will all be pretty much digital only in 10-15 or so years. Sure you'll have occasional stores that sell old CD's and records, movie shops that sell old blu-ray players and old blu-ray movies, and retro game stores that sell old used consoles and games but if you want to buy anything new, you'll have to buy it digital.



IF there even are consoles the generation after this I guarantee they will all be digital with no optical drives at all.



bananaking21 said:

yes, the xbox one didnt even release yet and here i am talking about the console that will come after it, but hey this will make my prediction all that more impressive when it comes true.

so ill just say it right away. the 4th generation of xbox home consoles will have policies restricting used games and DRM policies as well. again they will try to eleminate the idea of owning a game and make it into buying a license. i dont know how exactly, i dont know the details of course. but trust me, restrictions will be there. 

why am i saying this? because the company at its core believes in this, this is their goal and this is what they believe the gaming industry should be like, controlled. for example here is what a microsoft employee wrote on a blog about the entire DRM u-turn that happened yesterday. 

"I stand by the belief that Playstation 4 is Xbox 360 part 2, while Xbox One is trying to revolutionize entertainment consumption. For people who don’t want these amazing additions, like Don said we have a console for that and it’s called Xbox 360."

stuff like streaming video games to your friend, or streaming the game to your console so you can help him out or even try it out for as long as you want, or seemless sharing videos with just pressing one button or streaming video games right from the get go isnt revolutionary, it isnt something impressive  and it isnt something amazing, but sharing a game trail with your friend is!

Microsofts vision for the industry isnt something that i would call amazing, it isnt something that would benefit me or you. why does the future have to be ALL digital? why does it have to be CONTROLLED  by microsoft? why does it mean i am given restricitions instead of choices? why is the future the cloud?  the endless power of the cloud? is that the answer? apperantly so, guess who controlls that power though?


I have to ask do you have the same problems with Apple, Google, Amazon, and Steam?



It's an obvious prediction and isn't bold at all. I think Sony will do it too. Just like Steam on consoles, which MS were already trying to achieve...



They would... but not atleast for another 6-7 years



Yay!!!