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Mummelmann said:

What was he supposed to say? He was clearly caught off guard, defending consumer hostile policies on the fly is a truly daunting task, he did okay imo. It's like when really smart people try to argue on very thin grounds (religion, for instance).

this is funny.



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Euphoria14 said:

Obviously people do care. You just choose to ignore it.

 

As for getting better internet. I can't get Verizon FioS in my area, just Optimum Online, and my connection while a good 20mbs has so many issues and drops. I can't just wave a magic wand and shit gets better.

That goes for everyone, including those in the US who don't have internet.

 

So yes, people will buy the console that fits their purpose. The one that plays the same exact games as the XBone but DOESN'T need a internet connection in order to function.

 

 

By the way, the internet issue isn't even my main gripe anyways. My main gripe is why pay $60 and never actually OWN the product you purchase? If you're okay with just throwing your money away, more power to you. I however like to actually own something for the hard earn money I spend and like knowing that if I choose to no longer want it, I can go out and look for a maximum return.

I choose to ignore the same Sony fans repeating the same pointless concerns about a product they NEVER intended to buy anyway.

More power to those who buy the console that fits their needs, at least they aren't shoveling their opinion down others throats relentlessly on here telling everyone else what we should or shouldn't be doing with out money.  Funny how it's only Sony fans who do this isn't it.

I will still own my games under the scheme Microsoft plan, the difference is that I will actually have to maintain a internet connection in order to play them which is no big deal as every time I turn on my 360 it's conencted and hasn't been disconnected for over 3 years. 

Of course you seem to all complain about the negatives while ignoring any possible benefits.  Under this new licensing scheme I can register the game to my account then effectively snap the disk in two as I'll not need it again.  If it got stolen while registered to my account I would not have to rebuy the product.  If my console got stolen I would only have to arrange a replacement console then login and let it download all my content I owned straight back without having to mess around buying it all again.  If my disk gets scratched (or lost), who cares as I can download the digital copy instead.  If I go round to my friends and decide I want to show him a new game that I got, I can logon to their console, donwload the game then show them or of course just take the disk if I had the forethought to plan such a outing.  I will now be able to digitally transfer my licenses to friends as opposed to them being tied to my account never to be used again previously.  This is all I thought of in 5 minutes, there will be lots more benefits that will come about from having these "restrictions".

I dont' expect you all to praise the system or it's restrictions but at least learn to consider the positive benefits that can happen rather than always complaining about the same points which are born from the lazy argument that because you used to do it, you should always be able to.  There is a reason the ipod/ipad took off, some of you just lack the vision to understand why it seems.

 

@oniyide/SxyxS- you're not worth the time quoting or arguing with if the best you can do is those predictable straw man arguments.



@slowmo you cant argue cause you probably have not arguments, mostly what we see on xbone can and has been done on PC, better. but hey ejoy your console and keep that blood pressure down



SnakeEyez said:

Edit: The more I see the video, the more it looks like he doesn't believe in what he is saying. He looks a little sad, like he knows that maybe his job is in the line or that they have taken some wrong turns and it could cost them the generation and all the hard worked they did last gen. Sorta feel bad for the guy.

that's what I thought...about Reggie, when Geoff asked him about Wii U having slow sales and no gaemz, especially 3rd Party. Poor Reggie...



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slowmo said:
Euphoria14 said:
 

Obviously people do care. You just choose to ignore it.

 

As for getting better internet. I can't get Verizon FioS in my area, just Optimum Online, and my connection while a good 20mbs has so many issues and drops. I can't just wave a magic wand and shit gets better.

That goes for everyone, including those in the US who don't have internet.

 

So yes, people will buy the console that fits their purpose. The one that plays the same exact games as the XBone but DOESN'T need a internet connection in order to function.

 

 

By the way, the internet issue isn't even my main gripe anyways. My main gripe is why pay $60 and never actually OWN the product you purchase? If you're okay with just throwing your money away, more power to you. I however like to actually own something for the hard earn money I spend and like knowing that if I choose to no longer want it, I can go out and look for a maximum return.

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Please don't lump people together. We are gamers who have valid concerns and can voice them however we please.

It pays to know things before you speak about them though. I was a big supporter of the XBox One. I was very much looking forward to it and only went the other way when they gave out the official policies. I am a big supporter of ownership rights and I am glad that many others do as well. That doesn't make us Playstation fans. That makes us people who don't like being treated like shit.

You're 100% out of touch if you thinks it's just Sony fans bitching and moaning. When is the last time you checked the XBox.com forums? They are bitching there as well.

 

I speak out because I find their policies to be bullshit and the reason why people spread the word is because if people accept this kind of behaviour then it only gets worse from here on out. You say you own the games, but what happens if and when Live goes down? What if MS calls it quits? Do you still have them? What happens if Anonymous doesn't like their practices and pulls a PSN on them and Live goes down for weeks? Can you play those games you own?

This is what you are agreeing to. I however don't agree with it.

 

Give a man an inch and he will walk a mile. I fear for what their next attempt will be if we as consumers allow these current practices to continue.

 

I also never said anything about you not being able to buy it. You can do what you want with your money. I am just curious to know what this "progress" is. That and what these so called "advantages" are. MS keeps mentioning them, but they don't actually describe them. Seems like they are just blowing smoke up our asses.



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Euphoria14 said:
 
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I also never said anything about you not being able to buy it. You can do what you want with your money. I am just curious to know what this "progress" is. That and what these so called "advantages" are. MS keeps mentioning them, but they don't actually describe them. Seems like they are just blowing smoke up our asses.

 

You seem to have no problem lumping those of us defending the policies as lunatics and every other derogatory phrase you can use without getting banned so you'll have to excuse me not caring about lumping all the protestors under one category too.  If attitudes change on the side your debating for then perhaps I'll change my stance but I wouldn't hold your breath about people becoming reasonable as they've been at it for 2 months now.

 

I described some advantages of the model which you promptly ignored.  You're too busy screaming through the roof being resistant to change to look if it could actually be a benefit to the gamer.  I would say it's far more likely for Valve to go bust than Microsoft and then their model would leave you screwed in almost exactly the same way yet funnily enough we still have PC gamers crying about this too.  Ever considered that Microsoft are still finalizing these policies as the console still hasn't released yet.  They've said all alone than nothing is final yet which is probably why they cannot give you all the answers as they really aren't 100% sure yet.  I'd rather they wait and give the right information that "blow smoke up our asses" only to change stance later down the line.

 

By the way, here's some more information for you to ignore for those saying there is no progress or benefit.  As stated in the article there is lots of other things they can do to evovle the distribution and licensing markets.  This is a statement from Microsoft that will no doubt be "missed" by you all.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=162232

 

These threads are going to be gold 18 months down the line.

 

@oniyide - You've not made a post worth debating in 3 years so pardon if I don't value your opinion.  You're still putting out the straw man agruments I see though.



DirtyP2002 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
And meanwhile the Sony how to Lend games video is at 5.8 million views in just over 24 hours

smh MS


How many views were from the people without any access to the internet?


2.4 million views were from people with(too) low internet standards as they don't live in molechs like ruhrgebiet or north lüdenscheid

another 5.8 millions would already have watched the video ,but they could not as they don't have internet,but they have electricity to... for example play games



oniyide said:
Mummelmann said:

What was he supposed to say? He was clearly caught off guard, defending consumer hostile policies on the fly is a truly daunting task, he did okay imo. It's like when really smart people try to argue on very thin grounds (religion, for instance).

this is funny.


Yes, and true!



lol, oh microsoft



@slowmo, you mad bro? chillax. Im still waiting for you to tell me what the progress is, some of the stuff does sound cool digital game sharing, but if you want to believe we need to be restricted for that to be implemented go right ahead.