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curl-6 on 22 October 2013
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
The 7th gen is already over.

Nah, as long as the consoles are still selling then the generation isn't over.

By that logic it's still the 6th gen.

Gens last until they are succeeded.

Don't be silly, you know that not how things work. Its not Sony or MS fault the Wii  has already blew its load. Ps3 and 360 are still selling strong so they are still relevant. 

People still care about DS still trying to outsell the Ps2 we dont just say "No" sales don't count anymore because the gen is over. Lmao stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.



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Wonktonodi on 22 October 2013
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
The 7th gen is already over.

Nah, as long as the consoles are still selling then the generation isn't over.

By that logic it's still the 6th gen.

Gens last until they are succeeded.

Don't be silly, you know that not how things work. Its not Sony or MS fault the Wii  has already blew its load. Ps3 and 360 are still selling strong so they are still relevant. 

People still care about DS still trying to outsell the Ps2 we dont just say "No" sales don't count anymore because the gen is over. Lmao stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 



Mad55 on 22 October 2013
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
The 7th gen is already over.

Nah, as long as the consoles are still selling then the generation isn't over.

By that logic it's still the 6th gen.

Gens last until they are succeeded.

Don't be silly, you know that not how things work. Its not Sony or MS fault the Wii  has already blew its load. Ps3 and 360 are still selling strong so they are still relevant. 

People still care about DS still trying to outsell the Ps2 we dont just say "No" sales don't count anymore because the gen is over. Lmao stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

I have always seen it as the generation for a console ends once it's successor is out and the next full gen starts once all competitors released their new systems if they are able. The ps3 passing the wii in 3-4 years from now wouldnt make it the winner of the 7th gen imo it just kept running once the race was over. 



curl-6 on 22 October 2013
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
think-man said:
curl-6 said:
The 7th gen is already over.

Nah, as long as the consoles are still selling then the generation isn't over.

By that logic it's still the 6th gen.

Gens last until they are succeeded.

Don't be silly, you know that not how things work. Its not Sony or MS fault the Wii  has already blew its load. Ps3 and 360 are still selling strong so they are still relevant. 

People still care about DS still trying to outsell the Ps2 we dont just say "No" sales don't count anymore because the gen is over. Lmao stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

SNES passed the Genesis long before the N64 launched. 



Wonktonodi on 22 October 2013
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

SNES passed the Genesis long before the N64 launched. 


N64 wasn't the first console if the 5th generation by a few years



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curl-6 on 22 October 2013
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

SNES passed the Genesis long before the N64 launched. 


N64 wasn't the first console if the 5th generation by a few years

Much like PS4 and Xbone are not the first 8th gen consoles. Difference is, PS3 can't catch up in the month to go until its successor launches.



JoeTheBro on 22 October 2013
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

SNES passed the Genesis long before the N64 launched. 


N64 wasn't the first console if the 5th generation by a few years

Much like PS4 and Xbone are not the first 8th gen consoles. Difference is, PS3 can't catch up in the month to go until its successor launches.

Does that mean the dreamcast 6th gen is still going on? I'm still waiting on its successor's launch.



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Wonktonodi on 22 October 2013
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:
curl-6 said:

If they started selling N64s again now, it wouldn't suddenly be the 5th gen again, and the N64 wouldn't have won the 5th gen if it outsold the PS1 next year.

To win a generation you need to the the biggest market share. If PS3 sells 110m or whatever in a few year's time, the market will belong to the 8th gen consoles by then, so PS3 will never had had a winning share.

NES and SNES sold for longer than the N64 :P

Oh so the SNES lost to the sega genisis now? because it didn't pass it in sales until after the next gen launched?

To "win" you just need to sell more. It's mostly up to the market when a console stops selling unless a manufacturer stops selling it early.

 

SNES passed the Genesis long before the N64 launched. 


N64 wasn't the first console if the 5th generation by a few years

Much like PS4 and Xbone are not the first 8th gen consoles. Difference is, PS3 can't catch up in the month to go until its successor launches.

I really don't know why people need to add rules for when a gen ends. Or are you adding the stipulation of it's own successor now so SNES will be over genisis but ps3 can't pass wii?



curl-6 on 22 October 2013
Wonktonodi said:

I really don't know why people need to add rules for when a gen ends. Or are you adding the stipulation of it's own successor now so SNES will be over genisis but ps3 can't pass wii?

The end of one gen and the start of another is a fluid affair. That fluidity just doesn't extend to years after all the consoles involved have been replaced.



Wonktonodi on 22 October 2013
curl-6 said:
Wonktonodi said:

I really don't know why people need to add rules for when a gen ends. Or are you adding the stipulation of it's own successor now so SNES will be over genisis but ps3 can't pass wii?

The end of one gen and the start of another is a fluid affair. That fluidity just doesn't extend to years after all the consoles involved have been replaced.

I can see that in the case of one console selling for decades in the sence that it's not getting games suppoort or making up much of the market. but I think the 360 and ps3 will keep selling for a couple years and both will keep getting games for a while.