Okay. I guess your points do make the comparison between Steam and the Xbone a little unfair. However, except for the last point, they are irrevelevant because MS has the right to do what they want with their own product. 

I do agree with your last point, but I also think that it's bound to happen, and it needs to happen. If anything, maybe MS should have waited until everything went all digital.

and we see the industry as consumers and not stock holders... so, ya know

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Time will tell, OP.Time will tell whether or not general consumers accept those policies for console gaming, and if they do, what will publishers go after next if studios keep closing left and right?

Ok so here's something to think about.

Firstly, I'm stationed in overseas right now. Live's functionality is severely limited over here, to the point that we can't purchase anything, and pretty much have to beg for a solid connection. With these new features I can garuntee you we will not be able to play are games 95 percent of the time. For military people who often get deployed or overseas.....this sucks royally. We will not be able to play.

Secondly an issue that i feel is big which people are not taking into account. I personally LOVE buying old games that i missed out from a generation or two ago and plopping them in. What in the hell happens when i buy a game that is rare and not at game stop? especially when the xbone stops providing service. I'm royally fucked. I still buy old ps2 games and play them. Now because a game that is no longer in print or getting recorded sales is done with, I have to bend over and take a shaft up the shooter and pretty much say, " Well it looks like im not playing (insert game title here) because it wasn't originally purchased by me and i can't activate it."

Everything on that list is the biggest joke I've heard. I keep expecting to wake up, or someone with a party hat and a unicycle to come out laughing and say, "Just kidding guys!"

But no that's not going to happen.....what did happen is a collective group of people trying to scalp and salvage whatever drop of money they can out of it's consumer got drunk one night and went to far.

I feel like the Microsoft is an adventure from an oldschool RPG. He came in my house opened all my chests, smashed all my pots and went through all my drawers taking whatever few gold coins he could laying about and walking out like there was no issue at all.

Just.....no.

It's not even the developers who get this extra money, its the publishers. There's a difference.

Far better alternative than stripping away consumer rights.  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=161722&page=1#

I collect so as long as I enjoy the game I won't be selling it.  However, when I go back to play these games in 20 years when the network is shut down, I'll have no acess to these games.  I have around 80-90 PS3 games, but I'm certain there's one or two games I'll like that I didn't purchase.  What happens if this was the case for the Xbox One, the game was no longer in print, was not on the Xbox One digital store, and couldn't be purchased new?  So even while Xbox One servers are still running I'd be locked out of playing a game I just happened to overlook.

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Also.  Here's another reason that the policy is not good for gamers as it would hurt small publishers and probably less niche games would get localized. 

With no way to trade or sell used games to friends or sell them at decent prices like on Ebay or as an Amazon seller, people are going to be more skeptical about purchasing a game that they may or may not like.  Niche games.  A lot of the sales come from people not caring about throwing $60 on a game because they know they'll probably be able to get close to that amount by reselling on Ebay if they don't like it.  What happens to those same niche publishers now?  People just don't take the chance and buy the game.  The Japanese developers are giving countless excuses on why they don't release games in the west, and something like this could be t he final nail in the coffin for them to stop localizing games altogether.

I have no disagreements with what you just said. I just hope that your opinion does not become widespread. However, I don't think that people are fighting for their right to sale their games, they just want to be able to buy used games. 

I definitely feel your pain. If only they could implement DRM in another way that didn't require an internet connection... I regards to your other argument about purchasing an old game, hopefully developers would be smart/kind enough to drop their prices after a certain time period. I also like to look at those used game racks with really cheap games. It is a shame that we will end up losing that.

That's poor people talk. People who are under the delusion they can game on a budget are hilarious. How will EA's stock price go up if peasants don't buy the next COD at full retail price ? Peasants don't understand all digital is the way of the future, they expect me to carry around some archaic disc like I am some short of caveman ? And what if they don't actually like an all digital industry, they don't have any power, they are just the consumers. Such people should learn their place; personally I am disgusted whenever I am quoted by anyone with a connection lower than 10 mbps. And the second hand thing by itself is a ridiculous idea, first of all "second hand" ? you mean someone else touched it ? And secondly for the love of gold buddha if the friends you have want to...borrow, get better friends. The beauty of the ONE is that it feels like a closed community, you cannot go past the gate but it feels nice to have an all watchful eye over you. Restrictions means someone cares for you, it makes you feel important.