So long as I can disconnect my 3G device, thenthis is okay.....still an unnessesary hassle, but it's okay.

I'm just worried that I can't disconnect my device when I choose to. With my 360, I just have to unplug it.

LOL, I totally agree with you. I'm switching because of paying for online, with no reasonable plans for people who play ocassionally, now there are a whole bunch of other "rules." 

Timed, Timed, TIMED!!!!!

I hate how they still count this....

It's called the "One." Hey, Microsoft, the gaming world doesn't revolve around you, you aren't the only with something that has to do with gaming! How rude.

The 24-hour online check thing is the only thing that really bugs me about X1 at this point. It's just overkill... all they need to do here is implement the current check system that they have on the 360, where if you launch a game or app while the system is connected to the internet, it does a quick update search, and will require you to download it or else be signed out of XBL. If you are offline you can play whatever games you want, barring any online play of course, as well as being unable to receive the latest patches or DLC for your games.

The 24-hour online check does nothing to stop piracy, because the first thing people are going to do is to mod the system to work around it, and if people are going to mod the console anyway, odds are they're doing it to play pirated games, so you're only hurting / inconveniencing the people who purchased games and who want to use and enjoy the console legally in the first place with the 24-hour check.

What bothers me most is the 24hr check in. This isn't actually going to affect me personally because I'm always connected to the internet, but there is a fairly large number of people out there that don't have an internet connection. With the linkage to someone's phone service this may not be as big of an issue as most think, but I still think it's unnecessary.

As far as the used game policy. For those that say Gamefly will go out of business I just don't see it. People will continue to still rent 360,ps3, Wii, WiiU, and Possibly ps4 games depending on how Sony deals with it. I Still think MS will come up with a way so you can rent X1 games, we just haven't heard about it yet.

Not sure how it is with all carriers, but if I wanted to tether my phone to the XBone AT&T will hit me with a new monthly charge.

In no way is this device pro-consumer. For that I hope it fails miserably. I fully expect my fellow gamers to vote with their wallets and make a stand.

Another thing that shocks me is how the US is the XBox biggest territory and they just gave a loud FU to our troops. I am fairly positive that the Xbox was very popular amongst our men and women in uniform.

AFAIK Microsoft have said they're going to cater to them.

The main problem I have is the performance of the X1 I really don't like that MS chose an inferior GPU/RAM combo. Before anyone argues with that I just have to say that I am a Graphics loving guy, I just love when a game becomes so freaking good looking that you just go around watching the atmosphere and nature of Everything.
Sure I get that X1 will have a decent Graphics boost but I really wanted this to be a big leap!

Other than that I really can't say that the used games policy or the Always online thing bothers me, I have only once bought a game from Gamestop and that was Crysis 2 and I have had my 360 connected onto the internet for at least 3 years straight now.

RE: Not to beat a dead horse, but I hear the used game policy really ins't that bad. When you sell a game to a retailer, they will have the ability to clear the Gamertag attachment, so when you buy a used game in the store, you don't have to pay an extra fee to play it. So this really won't change the market that much.

However the One is controversial for more then just the used game fee, so what about the One is holding you off from buying one? Please NO FLAMING! If you want to make fun of the One, get out of here now, I really want to know, in all honesty, what's the biggest factor which is hurting the One now.

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For me, it's the games. Nothing really stand out from the leaked list of games. Rare has yet to make a high quality game on a Microsoft platform, Kinect Sports doesn't count, so I can't look forward to a new Killer Instinct of Banjo Game. Forza and Halo, just come way too often, I'm no where near done Forza 4, and there's already a Forza 5? How many new cars have released in 2 years? Plus I'm just tired of Halo and Gears now, the plot ended at 3 for me, now Halo feels like an epilogue, and I can't imagine Gears being as intense as it used to be.

Then there is Quantum Break and Titanfall, two One "exclusives" which will either likely release on PC, or are already confirmed on PC.

Plus, there is Microsoft's history. I bought a 360 in 2007 thinking, wow look at all the games coming out. In 2010, those games stopped flowing. Even if MS blew me away with their list of exclusives, I can't trust that MS will keep the flow coming.

Also reliability is a big factor, my 360 broke 3 times, and a 4th time is coming soon, I want a system that can last an entire gen, no worries.


There is no doubt you and MSFT wish the biggest complaint about the xbone are the games- something they can and probably will easily remedy soon enough- it is all the other stuff you glossd over (or that does not bother you) that is the real problem w the Xbone - and those issues are not going to be easy to clean up if even possible at all at this point so close to the presumed release.

Even if MSFT said - "hey we were wrong, we are scrapping all drm restrictions to our console and your game ownership rights"- everyone would know the true aim and desire of MSFT as a consumer business- what is surprising to me is they recently announced a plan to restructure w more focus on hardware- presumably a sizeable portion of the hardware will be consumer oriented- I can t think of too many ways they could have put the whole company in such an anti consumer light than what they are attempting w the xbox- MSFT make Adam Orth sound like "a man of the people" compared to the real heart of the company. The amazing thing is none of this controversy and bad pr is surprising and they just don t seem to care very much-

I think MSFT is underestimating a large % their customer base as well as a large % of their desired customer base gong forward- this has become a main stream story and not a good one for msft- if they get shot down enough maybe it will remind some other large corporations that they can only push the consumer so far w out it coming back to bite them seriously and for the long term