Possibly. Though I think the internal clock will check a timestamp the server call makes to see if 24 hours has elapsed. If the timestamp value can be forceably altered, Microsoft's servers will most likely have a similar timestamp for each console and make simultaneous checks to see whether the timestamp value is different than the last time your system checks in. If so, they probably won't be able to stop a hacker from accessing games after a 24 hour period as long as they don't try to access the servers.

I could be wrong of course. I didn't major in security.

People who've payed for live for numerous years have bent over and let MS take advantage of their inability to see the lack of value to their purchases. Knowing this they've now upped the ante by restricting more things (ie. playing offline, buying or selling used, renting, etc.). Their target audience are the people who've accepted the first restrictions imposed by the original Xbox and the 360 (playing online, watching Netflix, using other apps, etc.). I'm just wondering what further restrictions they want to add with the next console. My advice is to drop the support for this telev.. I mean gaming company, and pick up either a Wii U (confirmed to not be restrictive) or a PS4 (confirmed to not be as restrictive). You might worry about the lost gamerscore and such, but at least if you drop it now you can build up your trophy score by only being down half a generations worth of trophies that the average trophy hunter has.

And about Wright not happy about connecting to his friends WiFi to access his Xbox when he brings it to his friends house, and Crissindahouse's response saying that "it's only 30 seconds of extra work, what's the big deal," you need to know that it's embarrassing that a new console makes you do "extra work" to do what a previous gen console is capable of. Why invest in inferior technology?

lets see everygame you would have bought avaiable without having to carry your games with you and never having to get up and change the disk but having to connect to the internet right before you leave or if its longer then 24 hrs sometime before the time runs out or having to carry every game disk with you having to constintly changing them when you want to play something diff but not having to connect to the internet at all.  so you dont want to spend the five mins to maybe have to connect to the internet but your fine getting up changing the disk everytime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9APmJHu8DNs

I think this is a pretty good video. Its not a rant, like his Francis videos. Hes down to earth and has legit concerns.

Id recommend listening to it, not watching it. Have it on in the background.

I don't think so.

Microsoft already mentioned the "all your family/friends/etc can use your console/games at your house" in a separate bullet point.

They then went on to detail "family member" sharing in an entirely different section. To me this means any xbox, but would probably still require those family members to have Xbox Live accounts of their own.

It would not really be counter productive, because only the main game owner and 1 family member could be playing at any one point. It would be the same as loaning them the disc, but without the hassle of that! This really sound like an amazing feature, especially for the "lower income gamer" as some other threads were saying Microsoft hated.

Really? The dealbreaker is that you can't spend 10 seconds to connect to your friend's wifi? Or spend 10 seconds to connect to your cell phone broadband for a minute?

It appears some people have misunderstood mydefinition of hater. It is not for the more intelligent gamers that can reasonably argue against it, such as yourself and a few others.

The hater label is for all the misinformed *fans* of other consoles that blow things way out of proportion.

The lending of a retail copy is not lending. At that point it is "gifting" and you no longer own it. The person you gave it do does.

But this method above seems to imply a group of friends could share single player type games with ease! That would be wonderful in my opinion. I have missed out on a few games this generation because I don't feel I have the time to play them. However, if a friend of mine bought it and I could "share" it as a family member for free and play on my own time, I would get to experience those games!

As I mentioned in the thread. If I missed a topic, or you feel I did not cover a topic fully enough, please bring it to my attention. Also, see my response to someone above regarding my use of the word "hater".

I am unaware of any issues with "unnecessary costs" with the Xbox One. In fact, many of the things I brought to peoples attention up in the OP are cost savers over current gen!

Game ownership is not really changing either. It is the same game ownership policy from this generation, if you had read the disclaimers from publishers before. Almost all software operates on the "buying a license" mantra. Especially steam! The only issue I see with MS's push to the cloud is that the 24 hour timeframe is a bit restrictive compared to Steam which I believe has 30 day checkin? This is likely something MS might change if the complaints are loud enough. Perhaps your home console should be able to go 7 days or more while your "away" account on a different console should be able to last 24 hours.

Yes.