When I buy a physical console game I expect it to work any time, anywhere, with or without internet, now or in 20 years without restrictions or being subject to policy changes. Simple.
No game ownership, no point in buying the console.

Straw men have invaded the "problems" as well. Read how stupid they seem and how easily they're knocked down by the solutions.

And yet the bigger problems remain undiscussed. Issues of game ownership, of unnecessary cost, of the silence on whether the games will be fun.

Even in the title he calls anyone who has a problem with it a "hater". We struck down Adam Orth and he became more powerful than we could possibly imagine.

Yes. I could have said "Well, what happens if Microsoft go out of bussiness and closes its severs? What do I do with my games when there's no check-in, then?" or "Remember, original Xbox games lasted 8 years. Then the servers went out, but the games were still playable. What's with the One, then?". But heck no. Why do I have to put up with 30 seconds more work is my concern, and I stand still.

If you don't like my concerns, I'm sorry then.

I quote myself FTW.

"And still there will be some people who try to defend this policy."

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5405093

ps3/360 have an internal clock that differs from the ones you can see. It's how the ps3 keeps track of your ps+ subs and stuff.

Why are we compromising?! why? Xbox fans have the power to make demands, not just compromise!

All of these new "features" are just an inconvenience to the consumer and ways to make sure we play their little game. They dictate how we play, exactly who can borrow our games, etc. Just let me use my console however the fuck I please (unless it is used in literally illegal ways, piracy, etc)

The console SHOULD work without all of this bullshit. It is unnecessary and we should not have to bend over to every one of MS's whims and quirks. I bought the console, I bought the game, I dictate what I want to do with it. If I want to sell it, trade it, gift it, burn it ( i mean literally set it on fire, not make copies of it) , and more, I should be able to. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and can't do with MY game? Goddamn it MS, why? The xbox brand has so many loyal fans, die hard fans who love the games, the Live features, etc and this is how you treat them?

Yes, you can find ways around some of this and loopholes, but you can't justify it. You just can't! As always, for the record, the same goes for sony the minute they announce similar policies. I will not be buying a next gen console if that's how they want to play this.

Also do not forget that you can only resell a game once. It can never be sold again after that.

All sales final?

Edit- Seems I read it wrong. The one-time thing was about giving a game to a friend.

It's all very confusing. Still, I can't sell privately on eBay or Craigslist. 

I'm pretty sure it's determined by the last time the system made a call to a MS server. Can't (easily) hack that.

You need to add a poll for me that says something like:

"I didn't need any clarification. I know how digital distribution works and find Microsoft's DRM solution clear and acceptable"...or something along those lines.

I think you started on the wrong foot by calling people with legitimate concerns haters.

This is an attack on your right of property. Are you a hater when you protect your property from thieves? Can i have your stuff? You're a hater if you dont let me have it. Alas, you dont put out a fire by throwing more flames into it.