Love it when people sarcastically make a point in comparing apples and oranges.

As we can see from this small list, it is quite easy to compare apples and oranges. And they are remarkably similar in many ways. Although they may look and feel very different, the two fruits have a similar size and weight, and their juices have a similar caloric content and levels of vitamin C. However, they differ widely in fiber content of the fruit and in the potassium and folate levels of their juices.

Read more: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2010/11/comparing-apples-and-oranges/#ixzz2VUBFq4PF 

red orange

hard soft

and there were many other differences in just your list...

again... your xbone analogy to interet access to get on a website is simply poor logic and comparison.

Sorry, I guess you are like Max and have no access to the internet with that comment?  

Are you fucking serious?

A website lives on internet and thus its a direct requirement.

A game you buy does not live on the damn interent. It should be required. Two completely different scenarios.

Money does speak louder then words, that is why I choose not too buy an antii-consumer machine. Sadly this will still likely sell quite well due to the average consumer not being well informed.

So I assume you do have access to the internet XD High five! XD

I travel a lot, of course I don't take my consoles with me, I have a good enough laptop to do gaming, if I ever felt like it, but it still not online required, in fact I just turn off the wireless most of the time because it takes too much battery.

I have constant 50Mbps internet that never dies.

But that's besides the point.

That's the thing. MS is forcing you to have an internet connection to perform the most basic of things in a console, PLAYING SOME FUCKING GAMES OFFLINE. Nobody is forcing you to get on VGC and if your internet is gone for a long period of time, you can still game on your PC. Microsoft is giving a huge "fuck you" and forcing people to find a way to log in withing 24 hours or you can just go back to watching tv or movies...ON YOUR GODDAMN GAME CONSOLE. You better believe Sony will catch just as much shit from me and other fans if they want to implement this kind of shit. It sucks that everybody is bashing on MS but they brought it upon themselves when they decided to put their personal profit/benefit over the consumers.

Perhaps you do not understand how privileged we are to have such reliable internet as you and I do. My internet is perfect as fuck but this doesn't happen everywhere else.