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Vasto said:
Neoarc said:

http://www.twitch.tv/search?query=driveclub#stq=driveclub&stp=1

I think there is a problem with the browser they have it doesn't show live streaming from a lot of people, when I did search on driveclub I found a lot of streams more than the browser, check it out if you want to.


That is strange. A couple of those are live but most of them are recorded or offline.

Yup and there is more in the second page and maybe more in other pages.



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Vasto said:
BraLoD said:


Yes, sales numbers doesn't matter, what matter are twitch streams numbers.

I'm having a hard time believing I'm actually reading some stuff I'm recently, is this real life?


 I dont care what you have a hard time believing. I own Drivecub and the Season Pass, Forza Horzion 2 and Forza 5. Driveclub is not in the same league as Forza.

How does a game that has sold 2 million and thats not even counting the PS Plus version have not 1 stream. I call BS.

 

Driveclub

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Driveclub

 

 

  Forza 5

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Motorsport%205

 

 

  Forza Horzion 2

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Horizon%202

 

 

  

Are you really determining how many people like a game or its quality based on the amount twitch streams? Do you realize how incredibly stupid of a metric that is? Are twitch streams really the new criteria by which we determine how well received a game is?

Oh wait, I know what this is. This is just like when MS was the most popular E3 conference because it had the most twitch streams.....despite there being UStream, YouTube, IGN, Gamespot, etc. You're picking the one outlet that fits your point of view and juxtaposing it upon everything as a whole. Gotcha.

Move along. Nothing to see here



BMaker11 said:
Vasto said:


 I dont care what you have a hard time believing. I own Drivecub and the Season Pass, Forza Horzion 2 and Forza 5. Driveclub is not in the same league as Forza.

How does a game that has sold 2 million and thats not even counting the PS Plus version have not 1 stream. I call BS.

 

Driveclub

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Driveclub

 

 

  Forza 5

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Motorsport%205

 

 

  Forza Horzion 2

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Horizon%202

 

 

  

Are you really determining how many people like a game or its quality based on the amount twitch streams? Do you realize how incredibly stupid of a metric that is? Are twitch streams really the new criteria by which we determine how well received a game is?

Oh wait, I know what this is. This is just like when MS was the most popular E3 conference because it had the most twitch streams.....despite there being UStream, YouTube, IGN, Gamespot, etc. You're picking the one outlet that fits your point of view and juxtaposing it upon everything as a whole. Gotcha.

Move along. Nothing to see here

 

Thanks for sharing.



Still remember thing Sony guys bashing FH2 first weeks sales when it was the second highest Forza FW sales EVER. Just sad that they compare Driveclub to something better and try using sales to justify it. Good for the studio who made Driveclub, just more disgrace towards fanboys.



Teeqoz said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well your views are opinions too and I think most shooting fans share mine.

Killzone is just boring. Sluggish gameplay, bad story, bad multiplayer that has failed to keep a strong following. The series needs to do something very different to achieve a higher level of success.

I was impressed with the Vita Killzone primarily because it was more fast paced and it hit the spot for a portable shooter. Probably one of the more interesting stories in a Killzone game as well.


I think Killzone should be rebooted. Scrap everything except from the universe. Set it further into the future so you get more freedom with the weapons (all the weapons I used in KZ2 were basically your standard assault rifles etc.) Give us some unique weapons, and up the scale of the conflict. Actually, just make it a fully fledged Halo ripoff, given that that's basically what I'm describing...

Frankly, who ever makes the next Killzone needs to look at what makes Halo, BF, and CoD great. Create an amalgamation of all them.

It just needs to be something else, because the masses clearly want something different than Killzone offers.

Also, The Order need to become a full fledged Gears of War clone. That's another game that did it wrong.



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Another funny thread, what else to expect with such a title.

No one plays DC, so how come I still get multiple challenge invites daily...

Killzone doesn't need to become like Halo, BF and CoD. There doesn't need to be another Killzone, it was fun, it's done now. Make something new. Horizon will do.
The Order a Gears of War clone?? If anything it should go more towards Bioshock, not Gears of War.



Killzone could have been special with more emphasis on the Helghast. They should have been a brutal, frightening enemy. Something more than just stupid human grunts with glowing eyes. Their artwork ruined the games as well. Also, better writing. I felt gameplay wise KZ2 was not half bad. Obviously the controls were shit but other than that it was solid. The games got worse and worse after that imho.

Also, is this myth that DC's metascore was destroyed by the shitty launch servers ever going to stop? Read the actual reviews. The worst ones mostly don't even penalize the game for shitty servers, if they even mention it at all.



Vasto said:


 I dont care what you have a hard time believing. I own Drivecub and the Season Pass, Forza Horzion 2 and Forza 5. Driveclub is not in the same league as Forza.

How does a game that has sold 2 million and thats not even counting the PS Plus version have not 1 stream. I call BS.

 

Driveclub

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Driveclub

 

 

  Forza 5

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Motorsport%205

 

 

  Forza Horzion 2

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Horizon%202

 

 

  

What's so difficult to understand? The PS4 has a much much bigger choice of games than the XB1. At the moment people are going crazy for Rocket League.



 

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ethomaz said:

I resolved to make this thread firstly to support agains my ban but at the end the subject became interesting for me that I will make a new prediction here.

I say Drive Club will outsell Forza 5 in both period... launch time and life time.

Why?

Well my point is support by the fact Forza games have low sales... 2-4M per interaction and for a new console that will not get a big user base in at least two years the numbers will be even low... the Forza franhcise didn't grown over the generation and the only game to have so-so sales was Forza 3.

Drive Club is in the same boat but I think the PS4 will sell more than Xbone so at the end Drive Club will have good number... better than Forza 5 at least.

And you what do you think?

Edited - The bolded part is my opinion... you can ignore that.

Define sales? DC is also heavly bundled and has the advantage of seling on a console with twice the amount sold and has a huge audience in Eurpoe where most of the racing fans are located. In terms of the total sales figure, yes DC will outsell FM5, why? There are many reasons why. Forza and GT dont sell well anymore. GT6 sold around 3 million on a console with over 80+ USER base.

Take into account Qaulity > Qauntity. FM5 isnt a racing game for the casuals and being a launch title didnt do that game justice with content. However its still up there with thhe best Racing sims on the market.

In other words, Game A will sell more then Game B on a console with more sold.



GribbleGrunger said:
Vasto said:


 I dont care what you have a hard time believing. I own Drivecub and the Season Pass, Forza Horzion 2 and Forza 5. Driveclub is not in the same league as Forza.

How does a game that has sold 2 million and thats not even counting the PS Plus version have not 1 stream. I call BS.

 

Driveclub

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Driveclub

 

 

  Forza 5

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Motorsport%205

 

 

  Forza Horzion 2

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Forza%20Horizon%202

 

 

  

What's so difficult to understand? The PS4 has a much much bigger choice of games than the XB1. At the moment people are going crazy for Rocket League.

 

If people are hungry enough they will eat anything. Rocket League? lol