I find those numbers odd.

Sony's price seems too low, specially given that they go with GDDR5 which is expensive. Also we still don't know which HDD they will use or if the PSEye will be included or not, increasing the cost of the materials.

And MSoft seems too high compared to Sony. The CPU+GPU will probably cost the same for both, and they use chaper RAM. Yes, Kinect is included but does that alone justify the extra $50? I don't think so.

But it's Pachter, so we all know those numbers will be wrong.

i was just thinking the same thing thats too cheap

i reckon itl be similar to xbox1 parts cost factoring in xbox1 comes with kinect and ps4 eye2 doesnt that is

If those prices are even close - what does it say for the price of the Wi U at $350?

I was thinking the Wii U would have to be $100 less than the XB and PS4 to justify the difference in performance

either way I expect a price cut for the wii u sooner or later and hopefully Nintendo will do something for those of us who purchased it at launch

I don't understand how they came to the conclusion that the Xbox will be cheaper, considering the consoles are very similar minus the GDDR5 RAM and more powerful graphics card that should make the PS4 more expensive.

That's the price of the components, the cost of the different parts of the console. Then you have to add the manufacturing cost (someone has to put them together), the cost of shipping the boxes around the world and the part of the final price that goes to the store.

And of course there are other costs like marketing, R&D, etc that also increase the final price.

For instance, WiiU's BOM was rumored to be $180, the console is sold for $300 and Nintendo loses money on each one.

Hm....yeah this should be more expensive. The RAM and Kinect/Eyetoy stuff.

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I read an article the other day, saying that AMD was making $60 - $80 for each chip inside of Next Gen consoles.

The PS3 has 7850 performance level($170 for consumers) and don't forget that it's an APU so the CPU and the GPU are one, meaning they're paying around $80 for the CPU+GPU.

The 8GB of RAM once discounted I'm guessing is at around another $80 or $100 at most. Card makers can afford to pump out cheat GDDR5 cards nowadays, just not in the quantity of 8GB's on one chip, but after discounts this seems plausible.

The Motherboard should add on around another $40 or so, then the Hard Drive is another $50, and then the dualshock should be around $15, and then the actual case should be around $10 - $15 and then the actual manufacturing process should only cost around $30 per console.

80+80+40+50+15+15+30 = $310 in material costs is my estimate. Sony will then prolly give it to retailers for $280 per console, and then retailers will make the mark up to $350, so I'd be willing to bet Sony would be taking a $30 loss on every console, which isn't significant and actually pretty good for a console at launch.

Seeing as how most launch games will be internally developed, Sony would be making around $48 on every launch game sold, so they'd make their money back pretty quickly. ($48 goes to Sony and the other $12 goes to the retailer, but in reality Sony will actually pocket around $38 per copy sold with $10 per copy going towards the developers next project.)

As for Microsoft, I'm pricing their APU at $60. Their RAM at $40. Their ESDRAM at $10, their Hard drive at $50, their motherboard at $40, their case at $10-15, their controller at $15, and Kinect 2.0 as a whole at $80 and then to actually produce the console at $30 per console.

MIcrosoft said the original Kinect takes $56 to make, the new Kinect I assume will have it's own processor, much more advanced tech, and a 1080P camera, I assume they made the original Kinect cheaper to manufacture, that's why I'm going with a generous price of Kinect 2 ONLY costing $80, in reality it could range from $80 - $120. No way in HELL the Xbox's one production cost is that low with Kinect included. 

60+40+10+50+40+15+15+80+30 = $340.

I see Microsoft giving it to retailers at $360 per unit, and they'll mark it up to $400, making the Xbox One instantly profitable. I see them having a more expensive console because of how ambitious the console itself is, and how arrogant they are.

This would be the ugliest console ever made.

You forgot FUGLY!