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Seece on 22 May 2013
walsufnir said:
Seece said:
I hope it's a snazzy redesigned mini 360 with the new UI, that'll keep me going till I pick a X1 up.


Why, is your old box broken?


No, I'm just banking on it being a BC method for X1



 

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enditall727 on 22 May 2013
walsufnir said:
enditall727 said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
Xbox Mini designed to be stacked on top of your Xbox One whatever DVR/Receiver you have in your home.
We've seen the leaks Phil, it won't surprise people.


$99 xbox

how will sony respond?

can they?


With a $70-$150 price cut to $199-$149

 

Easy


I doubt that they already optimized the hardware that much that it would still make money at $149. Oh, they cut of course sell anyone the crappy 12gb-version of the console with mandatory installs...

MS will achieve this price especially because of the rumored redesigned chip.

What!? They can make that price point but it would be best to just drop it by $70



DietSoap on 22 May 2013
kowenicki said:
DietSoap said:
kowenicki said:
DietSoap said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
Xbox Mini designed to be stacked on top of your Xbox One whatever DVR/Receiver you have in your home.
We've seen the leaks Phil, it won't surprise people.


$99 xbox

how will sony respond?

can they?


Technically this would be a $100 price drop, right?

Man, I still can't believe it, it seems seriously hardball this late in the game. I understand the concern of the upcoming Wii U $100 price cut, but a $50 price cut to $150 compared to Wii U's $250 would still put Nintendo on the ropes.

I was expecting the PS3 Slim Slim to finally get that $50 price cut to $200, but at this rate I suppose they'll have to follow suit with $100 off just to keep up with the new 360.

It just seems strange, like they're trying to destroy their own next gen launches. $50 would've been enough for both as far as luring away potential Wii U buyers without harming their own launches too much.


they cant afford it... actually... thats never stopped them before.


If Microsoft can afford a $100 drop to $99, I can't imagine the PS3 can't afford a $100 drop to $150.

What they can't do is match a $99 price tag, but they've never attempted to match the 360 price, always just a little over.

It just seems strange for both of them, though. They're still selling gangbusters at practically pure profit. After this drop, they wouldn't be making much I dont' think.

WHAT!?

lol

where have you been for the last 5 years?

Your final sentence answers your first sentence.  Who needs their console to profit most?  and who has a paid for online service?


I don't know, you tell me. The 360 has paid off it's own debt unlike the PS3, but is now working on paying off the 2.4 billion accrued from the first Xbox. Do you know specific numbers for both? I bet they're both around a billion total debt for division overall.

Good chart btw, consider that 2001 and 2002 had even bigger losses to 2003.

http://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years



enditall727 on 22 May 2013
Seece said:
I hope it's a snazzy redesigned mini 360 with the new UI, that'll keep me going till I pick a X1 up.


?? Omg!!

 

=O!



yo_john117 on 22 May 2013

I've been saying that MS will support the 360 well after the Next Xbox releases for years now.

It was quite obvious that they would/will continue to support it, only people completely oblivious to how business works would say otherwise.



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DietSoap on 22 May 2013
kowenicki said:
DietSoap said:
kowenicki said:
DietSoap said:

If Microsoft can afford a $100 drop to $99, I can't imagine the PS3 can't afford a $100 drop to $150.

What they can't do is match a $99 price tag, but they've never attempted to match the 360 price, always just a little over.

It just seems strange for both of them, though. They're still selling gangbusters at practically pure profit. After this drop, they wouldn't be making much I dont' think.

WHAT!?

lol

where have you been for the last 5 years?

Your final sentence answers your first sentence.  Who needs their console to profit most?  and who has a paid for online service?


I don't know, you tell me. The 360 has paid off it's own debt unlike the PS3, but is now working on paying off the 2.4 billion accrued from the first Xbox. Do you know specific numbers for both? I bet they're both around a billion total debt for division overall.

Good chart btw, consider that 2001 and 2002 had even bigger losses to 2003.

http://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years


Losses and profits are one year only events, I know that doesnt suit gaming fans and their accumulating losses and profits arguments... but its a simple fact.

In that case, the PS3 has been profitable since, what, 2010 was it?

That's a dumb way of looking at it. Investors aren't going to be all that happy over these profitable years when these divisions have lost 3 billion and 5 billion respectively more than they've ever taken in... Or at least for the last decade, I suppose considering 2001 and 2002, Xbox division would be even more than 3 billion.

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Carl on 22 May 2013
kowenicki said:

CORRECT

the rest of your sentence is symantics

They are comepting for shelf space, what!?  They are competing for consumers money?  but not the SAME consumers.  This is basic economics Carl... come on.


Of course Im correct, but I never said that there would be dedicated gaming hardware from the competition. I said the competition would focus primarily on videogames.

Yes, theyre competing for the same consumers. Theyre competing for people who want to buy a games console. What matters is, theyre competing for (or should be competing for) the attention of gamers first and foremost.

When the Xbox One is out, do you really think Microsoft will care about how the PS3 is doing? And vice-versa?



                            

MonstaMack on 22 May 2013

XBox 360 back to number 2 WW confirmed?



It's just that simple.

DerpSandwich on 22 May 2013

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postofficebuddy on 22 May 2013

Do we know that the new console is going to be $99 and not $149? Also, as I've pointed out in the past price cuts don't really matter as much when you've reached saturation. Hence why the DS 2010 price cut and both Wii's 2011 and 2012 price cuts had almost no real effect.



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