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He means to say "Xbox/Microsoft fanboys", but that's alright.

Don't put words in my mouth please, thanks.

But close. Microsoft fans yes. In the same manner kowenicki talks like that about Sony fans sometimes.

I should make a bet that says Sony will do something similar to what Xbox one does. Any takers?

Not yet, moving to Australia in exactly a week from now, so once I get into my appartement there I'll have to scour for the best option to pre-order one! Can't wait either, honestly a year later then when I would've liked it to release, but Halo 4 has got me covered until release.

Good stuff. I'm actually waiting for whichever console I will prefer the most to drop to around 250€. Buying a PS3 at 400€ was a mistake for me :(

Which ones? There are a lot of them. Mandatory fees for used games? Always online? (once every 24 hours) PS Eye always on? Anything else? Clarify and I'll probably take the bet.

Sony will do something similar to what MS does with the used games. regardless if it's mandatory or not. Everything else that is considered negative about the Xbox doesn't bother me. 

Thanks for sharing, just pre-ordered mine as well
Wow @ the placeholder price though

Ohh well the difference between mandatory and not is a big deal imo, so no game from me then. I'll tell you what I think will happen with the PS4 - Sony will confirm once again the "up to the publisher" policy  about used games, I expect a fee similar to the online pass, close in price as well, not full game price a'la MS, and I'm pretty sure PS4 won't demand to install the game to the hdd and activate it. So better for the consumer, but they will have to somehow manage the second hand market, and piracy to keep good relations with 3rd parties.