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Player1x3 on 19 May 2013
KungKras said:
Player1x3 said:
KungKras said:
Player1x3 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
No, he probably didn't decide to have a baby. BUT he did make the decision to take part in an activity which had a high risk of him being a parent. He took a risk, so he should be prepared to accept the consequences of this risk.

Just because society is fucked up and people treat sex like a game doesn't mean it isn't serious and people shouldn't have to pay the consequences. That's a weak argument.

This isn't the stone age, sex and procreation are no longer one and the same. There's nothing "fucked up" about having sex for fun.


Sure, you can treat sex like a fun little game if you want, by its fucked up if you don't take responsibility when the real and serious consequences result. Just because you partake in an activity for fun, doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility for the consequences of that activity

What's fucked up is parenthood being forced on someone.

You can always give your child to an adoption system. What's REALLY fucked up is denying someone's chance to live a human life because you're an irresponsible cowardly fucktard (regardless of gender)

An un-sentient clump of cells is not "someone"


These types of posts make me wanna vomit. 

Those ''clump of cells'' are a developing human being.  Their sentiment is being developed inside the womb (if it's lucky enough not to be killed by the likes of you)

Who cares if it has the same genome as a human, it doesn have a brain, so it does not experience anything. It's not developed into a person yet, so it shouldn't get treated as a person.

I love how you seem to think that you're the most moral person, yet in a different thread, you voiced your approval of people beating up gays. So doing that to a real person with a real consiousness is ok to you, but not aborting an un-sentient fetus?

Hahaha, you're really not in the position to call anyone on 'holier than thou' attitude.

So by your marvellous logic it's also ok to kill a person in coma because he won't experience anything. It's developing INTO A human, and by killing it, you're denying it a chance to live a human life, and thus my previous statement. No one should have the right to decide whether or not someone should get a chance at life. Abortion is a sickening, disgusting immoral murder.

And where did i ever say i approve of beating up gays? I've witnessed a gay dude getting beat up, it was pretty bad



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KungKras on 19 May 2013
Player1x3 said:
KungKras said:
Player1x3 said:
KungKras said:
Player1x3 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
No, he probably didn't decide to have a baby. BUT he did make the decision to take part in an activity which had a high risk of him being a parent. He took a risk, so he should be prepared to accept the consequences of this risk.

Just because society is fucked up and people treat sex like a game doesn't mean it isn't serious and people shouldn't have to pay the consequences. That's a weak argument.

This isn't the stone age, sex and procreation are no longer one and the same. There's nothing "fucked up" about having sex for fun.


Sure, you can treat sex like a fun little game if you want, by its fucked up if you don't take responsibility when the real and serious consequences result. Just because you partake in an activity for fun, doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility for the consequences of that activity

What's fucked up is parenthood being forced on someone.

You can always give your child to an adoption system. What's REALLY fucked up is denying someone's chance to live a human life because you're an irresponsible cowardly fucktard (regardless of gender)

An un-sentient clump of cells is not "someone"


These types of posts make me wanna vomit. 

Those ''clump of cells'' are a developing human being.  Their sentiment is being developed inside the womb (if it's lucky enough not to be killed by the likes of you)

Who cares if it has the same genome as a human, it doesn have a brain, so it does not experience anything. It's not developed into a person yet, so it shouldn't get treated as a person.

I love how you seem to think that you're the most moral person, yet in a different thread, you voiced your approval of people beating up gays. So doing that to a real person with a real consiousness is ok to you, but not aborting an un-sentient fetus?

Hahaha, you're really not in the position to call anyone on 'holier than thou' attitude.

So by your marvellous logic it's also ok to kill a person in coma because he won't experience anything. It's developing INTO A human, and by killing it, you're denying it a chance to live a human life, and thus my previous statement. No one should have the right to decide whether or not someone should get a chance at life. Abortion is a sickening, disgusting immoral murder.

And where did i ever say i approve of beating up gays? I've witnessed a gay dude getting beat up, it was pretty bad

I assumed that you approved of it in the european country poll thread with this comment " Hahaha lol. It was kinda similar here in Serbia lol.  Thats what they get for not listening to the public and the majority (I assume Georgians were also against having a parade)" But I may have misinterpreted it.

There is a very important distinction between abortion and killing someone in a coma. With some people, the brain is still active, even though they aren't 'awake'. An old relative of mine got a heart attack, and was unconciouss for a few days, but when he woke up, he could remember what the doctors around him had talked about. People in comas have had consiousness, and if they would some day wake up, they would probably experience a continued conciousnes. Personally, the only time that I'm in favour of dropping life support is when it can be proven that all brain cells are dead. Early fetuses have never been concious, and have never had a brain to be concious with. It's a totally different situation.



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Mr Puggsly on 19 May 2013
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
outlawauron said:
Men having a say in whether or not they want/have to be a parent (ie. not having to pay child support) would lead to a lot more abortions, I think. Lots of people living off it.

I think it would lead to more dead beat dads than abortions.

That allows men to be even more irresponsible.

It's already a big problem with either men skipping payments or being unable to pay them at all. I know that many famous athletes have gone bankrupt because their child support was based on their athletic income and they couldn't keep it up after retiring. I can only imagine how it could be bad after the big slump and a ton of people became un or underemployed.

ETA: I think there should be big overhauls to the entire system. it's not set up in a very logical way and there has to be a better solution so that the child can actually benefit.

My point was giving men an opportunity to not pay child support doesn't lead to men being more responsible.

What you're talking about now is unrelated. I'll atleast agree there should be a cap on how high child support can be. Certainly no one should get rich off it.



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Jay520 on 19 May 2013
Player1x3 said:

Hahaha, you're really not in the position to call anyone on 'holier than thou' attitude.

So by your marvellous logic it's also ok to kill a person in coma because he won't experience anything. It's developing INTO A human, and by killing it, you're denying it a chance to live a human life, and thus my previous statement. No one should have the right to decide whether or not someone should get a chance at life. Abortion is a sickening, disgusting immoral murder.

And where did i ever say i approve of beating up gays? I've witnessed a gay dude getting beat up, it was pretty bad


It's actually usually acceptable for people to pull the plug on relatives who lack consciousness and can't experience anything.

Also, he's not the one with the "holier than thou" attitude. You are.



curl-6 on 19 May 2013
Player1x3 said:
KungKras said:
Player1x3 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
curl-6 said:
Jay520 said:
No, he probably didn't decide to have a baby. BUT he did make the decision to take part in an activity which had a high risk of him being a parent. He took a risk, so he should be prepared to accept the consequences of this risk.

Just because society is fucked up and people treat sex like a game doesn't mean it isn't serious and people shouldn't have to pay the consequences. That's a weak argument.

This isn't the stone age, sex and procreation are no longer one and the same. There's nothing "fucked up" about having sex for fun.


Sure, you can treat sex like a fun little game if you want, by its fucked up if you don't take responsibility when the real and serious consequences result. Just because you partake in an activity for fun, doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility for the consequences of that activity

What's fucked up is parenthood being forced on someone.

You can always give your child to an adoption system. What's REALLY fucked up is denying someone's chance to live a human life because you're an irresponsible cowardly fucktard (regardless of gender)

An un-sentient clump of cells is not "someone"


These types of posts make me wanna vomit. 

Those ''clump of cells'' are a developing human being.  Their sentiment is being developed inside the womb (if it's lucky enough not to be killed by the likes of you)

Your type of posts make me wanna vomit, so the feeling's mutual.



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outlawauron on 20 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
outlawauron said:
Men having a say in whether or not they want/have to be a parent (ie. not having to pay child support) would lead to a lot more abortions, I think. Lots of people living off it.

I think it would lead to more dead beat dads than abortions.

That allows men to be even more irresponsible.

It's already a big problem with either men skipping payments or being unable to pay them at all. I know that many famous athletes have gone bankrupt because their child support was based on their athletic income and they couldn't keep it up after retiring. I can only imagine how it could be bad after the big slump and a ton of people became un or underemployed.

ETA: I think there should be big overhauls to the entire system. it's not set up in a very logical way and there has to be a better solution so that the child can actually benefit.

My point was giving men an opportunity to not pay child support doesn't lead to men being more responsible.

What you're talking about now is unrelated. I'll atleast agree there should be a cap on how high child support can be. Certainly no one should get rich off it.

My point wasn't that. I said that if it wasn't the case, then those who make their living off of alimony and child support wouldn't have those incomes and thus would have been more likely to choose abortion. I didn't say that it made men more responsible.



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Mr Puggsly on 20 May 2013
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:

My point was giving men an opportunity to not pay child support doesn't lead to men being more responsible.

What you're talking about now is unrelated. I'll atleast agree there should be a cap on how high child support can be. Certainly no one should get rich off it.

My point wasn't that. I said that if it wasn't the case, then those who make their living off of alimony and child support wouldn't have those incomes and thus would have been more likely to choose abortion. I didn't say that it made men more responsible.

How many people really make their living that way? I don't think its a huge problem.

Frankly, I wish more women would make a living that way. We'd see less people on food stamps. Instead too many get knocked up by dead beats.



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outlawauron on 20 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:

My point was giving men an opportunity to not pay child support doesn't lead to men being more responsible.

What you're talking about now is unrelated. I'll atleast agree there should be a cap on how high child support can be. Certainly no one should get rich off it.

My point wasn't that. I said that if it wasn't the case, then those who make their living off of alimony and child support wouldn't have those incomes and thus would have been more likely to choose abortion. I didn't say that it made men more responsible.

How many people really make their living that way? I don't think its a huge problem.

Frankly, I wish more women would make a living that way. We'd see less people on food stamps. Instead too many get knocked up by dead beats.

Those living off of child support have no real income and would without question would be assumed to have food stamps as well.



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Mr Puggsly on 20 May 2013
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Puggsly said:

My point was giving men an opportunity to not pay child support doesn't lead to men being more responsible.

What you're talking about now is unrelated. I'll atleast agree there should be a cap on how high child support can be. Certainly no one should get rich off it.

My point wasn't that. I said that if it wasn't the case, then those who make their living off of alimony and child support wouldn't have those incomes and thus would have been more likely to choose abortion. I didn't say that it made men more responsible.

How many people really make their living that way? I don't think its a huge problem.

Frankly, I wish more women would make a living that way. We'd see less people on food stamps. Instead too many get knocked up by dead beats.

Those living off of child support have no real income and would without question would be assumed to have food stamps as well.

But maybe if they had some big bucks coming in from child support we'd have less people relying on the government to get by.

They should teach this to girls in school. Only get knocked up by guys with lots of money. It'll save the country.



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the2real4mafol on 20 May 2013
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Frankly, my argument is that we shouldn't give the woman special powers. Do not legalize abortion for irresponsible women. Only allow it for women who have health risks or were raped (and even the latter case is contesable.) There is no natural right to kill a fetus. And no, this isn't morality I'm assuming, but natural law. 


Fair enough. I still think its a question of morality, however. I don't believe in "natural laws."

Instead of abortion, do you think instead we should force children to be raised by irresponsible parents? Who knows the consequences of that.

That's the risk with anyone though. Just because they didn't abort doesn't mean they can't be shitty parents. It's sort of luck really if you are born to good parents. Although those who want to abort but can't normally are bad parents



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