Handheld has just reduced in popularity and is now resereved mainly for the core gamer. ALthough in the last 2/3 weeks I think the 3DS has finally passed the threshold where people look at its library and go "yeah, theres enough to entertain me". We've seen it sell 40-50k consistently.

Nothings wrong with nintendo's main teams still being in Japan, mario kart, smash  bros, 3d mario and zelda  all appeal to the average western gamer anyway. Having a fee more european/NA teams would definitely help though and be a worth while investment. As a whole the problem with the Wii U is that lacked games, which will soon change. But also people were cautious that it would lack next gen 3rd part support because of its power. As a result I think very few have interest in it, but once nintendo strongest IPs are out and teh system is cheap, I think many harcore gamers will pick up a wii U as a secondary console. This winter it will do very well with parents purchasing games for young kids (Mario Kart, Windwaker HD, Luigi, Kirby and mario+sonic at the olympics).

I didn't mean at all, but it seems that HD did nothing for console sales & movie sales for them to sale like standard-definition.

Lack of 3D content will obviously affect 3D popularity but with around 70 3D movies this year & 45 3D moves last year, well it's more of a lack of being inform.

Discomfort of technology is what color Tv & Movies with thru back in the 60's with the headaches & nausea & so fort, so this common when you have spend so many years watching black& white TVs, or in this case spent too many years watching 2D TVs. Is is why most cases are with senior citizen with fewer cases among middle-age Americans and almost no cases with young people. Plus other people just have a medical problem that was never caught by the doctors checkups.

More info on 3D effect on people: http://www.aoa.org/x17309.xml

the 3D is only going unused because of lack of content, unless you have cable or satalite where you can stream some free 3D Movies & so fort on demand, plus there is Vudu with other streaming serives getting 3D content like Hulu plus, so you know Netflix will follow afterwards.

 So I do agree, but the issues aren't as bad as they sound.

Actually the 3DS has sold more in its first 1 month then the first 1 month sales of the DS & first 1 month sales of the GameBoy Advance.

And same goes for first 3 months comparison.

And first 6 months

First 12 months

18 months

24 months

You get the idea.

And the 3DS has 1 less holiday in the same point of life spam. Well it's half a holiday less then the DS had during the same point of life spam.

Hopefully I don't get banned for saying thus but Wii was bought and sold purely as a gimmick/fad that was popular at the time. Much like Furby and Tickle Me Elmo it was something that people just had to have. Granted it lasted for quite some time due to the fact that it wasn't just a one trick pony, but when old people and 7 years olds are you're main consumer changes are you won't stick around for long. Old people die and 7 years olds become 13 years olds worth Xboxes and PlayStation 3s. As I've started before, almost no one who's once owned a Wii can tell you exactly where their console is.
I remember when Wii was brand new and my local news station had a raffle for a new Wii console. At that moment was when I said the machine would take off but wouldn't be considered a console of choice by gamers. Almost everyone who owns a Wii and had to buy it with their own money owns another console and Wii is the 2nd banana. I believe Nintendo themselves realized this and launched WiiU to preempt the moment Wii would have been totally forgotten by consumers. The company has always been innovative but they should have also pushed some of that innovation into new IPs and broader gaming experiences.

The WiiMote+Nunchuck is less of a gimmick then HD.

And 3D Sound (Surround Sound) is less of a gimmick then HD.

Same goes for 3D & Color & IMAX.

But the past gen Home Consoles (PS3/Wii/360) just wasn't that good anyways. Thank goodness for Virtual Console on PS3 & Wii.

Are we talking worldwide or Just north america? Japan has been compensating lower sales in the western regions. Also I think the  worthwhile comparison isn't chronologically in terms of years from launch, but more based on the DS once it developed a strong software line up and was re-released. Both of which have happened for the 3DS, so the assumption is that it should peak sooner.

Maybe pokemon will allow it near the DS's sales, or maybe the market just doesn't allow for that anymore.

The point is the PS2 and Wii are not topping sales currently.  It doesn't matter what their LTD is.  The DS is still ahead of the 3DS by 120 million, does that mean people want 2D and don't care about 3D?

So it seems people are more interested in new ways to watch 2D content than to go out and watch 3D movies, gotcha.  Why would they need to lower prices of 3D movies if people are rabid for them?  Surely they'd pay any price.  The studios wouldn't need to increase the price of 2D to encourage more people to see 3D.  So if the prices are dead even, what you are saying is there is no value in 3D.

They are still buying more HDTV's than 3DTV's.  If that is no one, then how do you describe the 3DTV audience?  Not to mention of course that pretty much all the 3DTV's are HD as well.

Are third parties continuing to make Wii exclusives?  The list you gave me was all from years ago, mostly published by Nintendo, and one of the franchises went multi-platform.  I still don't see how it is relevant to Vita support.  Gamecube might not have sold a ton of software, but the Wii sold a lot of hardware and publishers wanted to take a crack at that userbase.  Even so the support wasn't amazing.  Why though does it prove that the Vita would get 3DS games if they weren't 3D?

Both Batman and Spider-Man were going downhill before their reboots.  That's why they needed a reboot.  Don't see how the Superman reboot is more risky than the Hulk reboot.  I can't seem to find any information on it other than a thread you made a couple months back, but I suspect you are taking a joke as an announcement in regards to the Mario movie.

Once again with RE6 and FFXIII.  Where did you get into your head that those were the only games on HD consoles?

We've been over this before.  Stop making up numbers.  Whether we are talking about US or worldwide, the 3DS is not above both the GBA and DS for every one of those time frames.  The GBA was performing better in the early time frame, and by now the DS has pulled ahead.

US sales

From what I've seen from this member in this thread, he seems to like to make blanket statements and pass them off as fact, without anything to actually back them up.  Have to make a note to avoid him in the future.  Unless he changes, of course.

Going by your chart, he seems to be right when talking about the 3DS to DS, at least.  Of course, when you stop at 24 months, you leave out that the DS sales started to really explode around the 25th month.  This doesn't seem likely to happen to the 3DS any time soon.  In fact, it seems it will follow the PSP's sales line, albiet slightly higher. In the end, I think the PSP will most likely match, or slightly beat, the GBA's sales of 81.5M.  So, the 3DS will most likley settle at 90M-100M.

The DS came out 7 years earlier. And it had Pokémon 4th gen much earlier in its life spam. Pokémon 7th Gen won't come out until around the 31st month.

And they are lowering the price of 3D movies to have an excuse to increase the price of 2D movie tickets. Plus more & more people keep getting 3D TVs and Vudu and other streaming services keep adding 3D streaming library of 3D movies which gives theaters all the more reason to even the price between 3D & 2D movies while finally being able to increase the price of 2D movies further, without good enough outrage from the public.

And even though they are still buying more 2D TVs then 3D TVs, you forget that 2D TVs sales have plummet while 3D TVs sales keep going up & up, so clearly 2D TVs are going the way of the dinosaurs, but a slow painful death version.

And 3rd parties are not making games for the Wii because of the Wii U shown at E3 2011 which has been out since 2012.

Batman had continue to show that it can make a profit with less quality and at if someone can make a high quality batman movie, that that would ensure a profit no matter what.

Spider-man was bigger with 3 then any of the previous 2, and there was no need for a reboot nor make anymore installments when they left the movie with such a big way to finish with Spider-Man 3.

About the Mario bros. movie 2, they have been filming in Georgia, and there was a casting call even earlier during previous year. A lot of movies get filmed in Georgia and this just happens to be one of many movies filmed in Georgia.

And you clearly miss my point about RE6 & FF13 vs. KH3D & RE:R.

And Nintendo said that the 3DS sold more in its first 12 months then GameBoy Advance, so I'll take what they say over what you say anytime.

Mario Bros is probably bigger than both of those and is already out for the Wii U, yet seemed to have little impact. They'll do something, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on them.

The same fate as the N64 and the GC isn't a bad fate at all though.