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Glad to see accurate data on this website. Even if they arent 100% they are much better than they was before. Good job VGC with taking the time to correct everything

Also congratz to all the hardware for a monster generation. All 3 looks to reach 80m. Hey maybe they can all make it to 90m as well! :)




       

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Well since this seems to be the right place to talk about adjustments.
These recent games have no or extremely inaccurate European sales:

Guitar Hero 2 (360)
Singularity (360 & PS3)
Need For Speed Most Wanted - 2005 (360)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (360)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (360)
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent (360 & PS3 & Wii)
Tomb Raider Legend (360)
Ace Combat 6 (360)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (360)
Command & Conquer 3 (360)
Dead or Alive 4 (360)
Eternal Sonata (360)
Skate (360 & PS3)
Burnout Revenge (360)
Call of Duty 2 (360)
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy (360)
Test Drive Unlimited (360)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (360)
Kameo (360)
King Kong (360)
Prey (360)
Fight Night Round 3 (360)
WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2007 (360)
Virtua Fighter 5 Online (360)
TimeShift (360 & PS3)
Lair (PS3)
Folklore (PS3)
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds (PS3)
Stranglehold (PS3)
The Godfather (360 & PS3 & Wii)
Far Cry Instincts Predator (360)
F.E.A.R. (360)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (360 & PS3 & Wii)
Hitman Blood Money (360)
Perfect Dark Zero (360)
Overlord (360)
Red Steel (Wii)
Rayman Raving Rabbids (Wii)
Cars (360 & Wii)
Excite Truck (Wii)
Medal of Honor Heroes 2 (Wii)
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Wii)
Battalion Wars 2 (Wii)
Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility (Wii)
The Sims 2 Pets (Wii)
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams (Wii)
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii)
Ninety-Nine Nights (360)
Condemned Criminal Origins (360)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 (360)
Blazing Angels (360 & Wii)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance (360 & PS3 & Wii)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (360)
Quake 4 (360)
Shadowrun (360)
Darksiders (PS3)

and many more smaller titles from the same time period (mostly 2005-2007).
Since most of them had European sales a few months ago, I hope most of them are easy to fix.



Michael-5 said:

It's funny because I estimated PS2's total at 157.38 million as of January 1st 2013, and you now have it at 157.68 million. I was shocked because I might have had the exact same number as you had I continued estimating.

Thanks for the Adjustment, where exactly are PSP's sales coming from? I understand PSP gets a lot of sales from Asia, but wouldn't there be a lot of support in South America? Where do you track South America sales now, In the same place as Europe? Wasn't South America included in "America's" before?

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Also I noticed that you only adjusted hardware, and some software. A lot of people claim God of War 3's sales are about 1 million undertracked. I forget their arguement, but they say that the game opened up to more sales then VGC has tracked, and it's unlikely for sales to have just stopped to meet VGC numbers.


As everyone's saying, thanks for the adjustments ioi! Nice to see an effort to make tracking more accurate.

And since you brought it up Michael-5, here's a thread I made almost a year ago regarding God of War 3's sales: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=144437 (Just updated it recently). And according to NPD it sold 1.1m in the US during its first 4 weeks vs. 1.04K Vgchartz estimated, not a huge difference until you consider bundled sales were tracked separately by NPD meaning it could have really been at 1.2m in total which would be a fairly significant difference.



Barozi said:

and many more smaller titles from the same time period (mostly 2005-2007).
Since most of them had European sales a few months ago, I hope most of them are easy to fix.


I literally just brought up your post with Trunks in this thread since he replied to my post about adjustments to 3DS games in there, so you might want to bring it up there too.  In any case, hopefully he spots it and passes it on to ioi.



Slimebeast said:
ioi, why did you make the PS3 win all of a sudden? As a former Xbox fan it upsets me.


Was weird the whole time
360 gained always the same amount as the PS3 in those graphical charts on the main site even if it got outsold by 50-100k each week for months.

Never made any sense.



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Thanks ioi, not only for the adjustments but for telling us why have you made them and what causes them.



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Thanks for the clarification. Always good to see improvements being made to the accuracy of the numbers, doubly so to see the staff recognise the weaknesses and are looking to improve.



Wow. After adjustments PS3 within 200k of 360 O_O

The last year or two the sales have been weird. Vgchartz definitely has been matching up to the official trackers but somehow when shipment numbers get released they waaay off.

Which is why i can understand the reluctance to just adjust willy nilly.

Great job guys! I just hope you keep a focus on this website and all of its features not just the sales figures :)



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Thank goodness you've clarified and have notified us that the issue is being worked. Many people (including myself, to an extent) thought that the numbers were way out of line.

Hopefully tracking can continue on the road to success.
Question, though: When (if at all possible) do you think VGC will be able to track Downloaded games?



trunkswd said:
Software figures for a few games should also be fixed, ie Gran Tursimo 5. But remember that VGC doesn't track digital sales, only retail sales.

Yea, Polyphony Digital say 10.66 million on their website including digital sales.

How can GT5P sell 1 million digital copies, but GT5 sell only 250k? It makes no sense.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html



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