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Viper1 said:

But they didn't stop manufacturing the DS.   Some journalist who should have his writers license revoked jumped to the conlucion that Nintendo stopped producing the DS because they didn't include a projected shipment figure for the next fiscal year.  Then it spread like wildfire on forums....like this one.   

But when the truth came out that Nintendo didn't stop production and have no plans to stop production, it wasn't hot news and few people saw it it.

You thought that people wanted the truth??? Who cares if someone didn't write something completely factual, he tried, that's all that matters.



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The DS is still selling and will so for years. Nintendo can keep dropping the price over time and it will keep selling. It's not over yet.



People still comparing PS2 and DS sales? Oh boy, shall we compare best selling cars with best selling bikes then too?



pezus said:

This is true, but it won't change the ultimate conclusion.

But it affects something much more important. Bias in our industry.



Somini said:
Mr Puggsly said:
It should be noted, if it really mattered to Nintendo it would have happened. Just a little more support could have pushed it over.


Support wasn't the problem, the sales of DS were. The DS just died.

Never the less, the reasons why don't actually matter, just the milestone itself.

No, support declined and 3DS took off. Also, you can play DS games on a 3DS. The 3DS covers your DS needs. So you do the math.

You can't say the same for PSP. That console died because people lost interest and not many have even moved on to the Vita.



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Lawlight said:
Branko2166 said:
BaldrSkies said:
Not sure why a home console and a handheld were even being compared in the first place.

At the time it was argued that they were both consoles by definition. And wether they were home consoles or handhelds was irrelevant.

In any case whatever the point of view is for people in regards to that argument it no longer applies as the DS was unable to surpass the PS2.

 


It is of relevance. Handhelds have more people to target than consoles.

For the record I agree that it's not a valid comparison simply because the potential for handheld sales is so much higher compared to home consoles.

I guess it makes the PS2's performance even more impressive when viewed in that light.





 

 

pezus said:

Like when they reported that Sony had stopped producing PS2s? Based on something from The Guardian. Really, gaming "journalists" are just bad all around. 

I guess it's up to us all to be more vigilant then.



Viper1 said:
Branko2166 said:

After getting the latest figures from Sony and having in mind that Nintendo has stopped manufacturing the DS it seems apparent that the PS2 has maintained and secured its lead on the pantheon of all time sales among the gaming consoles including home and handheld ones.

Congrats to both companies for having such phenominally successful consoles and while the software shipments weren't that close the hardware sales battle went down to the wire. Ofcourse I recognise that the PS2 and DS are from seperate generations and were not direct competitors but nevertheless it was very entertaining to observe the battle for all time HW shipments.

Now that the dawn of the 8th gen is upon us we can only hope that any of the companies can have similar results especially considering the competition from things like tablets/smartphones.

 

But they didn't stop manufacturing the DS.   Some journalist who should have his writers license revoked jumped to the conlucion that Nintendo stopped producing the DS because they didn't include a projected shipment figure for the next fiscal year.  Then it spread like wildfire on forums....like this one.   

But when the truth came out that Nintendo didn't stop production and have no plans to stop production, it wasn't hot news and few people saw it it.

I guess that report along with the fact that I know that it's no longer being sold in Australia and Japan has led me to believe that. In any case even if I was wrong in that assertion it appears that the 3ds has effectively replaced the DS sales in most of the world and hence the PS2 lead appears to be insurmountable at this stage.

 



 

 

Mandalore76 said:

When your next gen handheld is fully Backwards Compatible, it renders production of the previous version unnecessary.  I recall people on this site complaining that DS sales were too high just a few months ago claiming it was stealing sales from it's successor.  DS sales didn't die, 3DS sales took off and successfully replaced it in the handheld market.

This isn't really the case.  DS sales had started to collapse prior to the release of the 3DS.  Even so, the 3DS is not doing what the DS was selling prior to the launch.  2012 saw 3DS+DS sales drop 4.3 million despite an extra few months on the market for the 3DS.  It has seen further declines in the first four months of this year.



Get your facts right before you post.

DS production hasn't yet stopped, Nintendo have merely stopped forecasting sales for the device. If you judge production of a device by that yardstick, then bad news--Sony have now stopped forecasting PS2 sales, and have only forecast expected PS3 sales for the coming year. Obviously the PS2 has stopped being produced, no?

OR, think a little more clearly, and realise that both systems are now in the same place. Sales are low enough, and other systems are more of a priority at both firms, that PS2 and DS no longer need to be forecast. The information is no longer particularly relevant to investors, shareholders and analysts.

It should also come as no surprise to anyone that PS2 remains the top selling system of all time. Sony are a huge consumer electronics firm that sell in a far wider variety of markets than Nintendo do, which means Sony have a more widespread, superior distribution network through which they sold PS2 after sales in major videogaming markets had become a non-entity. The fact DS came so close to PS2 without that kind of distribution apparatus is immensely impressive. DS never had as large an audience to appeal to as PS2, because it was never sold to as many markets.

More importantly, both DS and PS2 were phenomenal systems with diverse, impressive catalogues of software. Why we can't celebrate that, instead of enduring another tribalistic, fanboy-centric circle jerk thread about PS2 versus DS? Or are the numbers more important than the experiences each system provided? Such a shame that fans of both sides of this argument haven't bothered to celebrate that, but instead opted for these kinds of silly little threads.