thanks i didnt feel like getting into it, i want to see quotes where people said it was bad. That is quite different than saying it would tank. People might have said the series wasnt that popular and looking at sales it isnt.

Google "Bayonetta sucked anyway."

And you think these were the same people that loved Bayonetta beforehand... Based on what? I knew plenty of people that didn't like Bayonetta right around it's release, but they kept quiet about it because (thankfully, in my opinion) it wasn't involved in the console wars.

I LOVE Bayonetta, possibly in my top 10 favorite games of all time and I can't wait to see 2 unveiled. That said, while I don't blame Nintendo at all and in some ways might even be proud of them considering Sony and Microsoft didn't bother to outbid them (or possibly bid at all, even), I'd still be lying if I didn't say the Wii U is pretty much the last place I wanted to see the game if only because the lower graphical power.  PC > PS4 > 720 > Wii U was my order of preference.

Had a breakthrough? What does that mean?

Oh god, Just cause 3 would be day one =p.

never played any of their games.. didn't even know about them until a couple of days ago

note to unknown devs: If you want to be known tell people you are not developing for Nintendo consoles

Please great oracles of all things Nintendo. If it wouldn't be too terribly much trouble. Would you care to explain to us poor fools what it is that Nintendo has done exactly to court third party developers. Yes I am being sarcastic, and I don't expect you to actually have any answers beyond a couple token gestures, some ass kissing from small studios that can not afford to anger Nintendo anyway, and some very vague lip service.

This isn't my first time to this rodeo, and this isn't the first time I have heard this song and dance from Nintendo. Hell it isn't the first time I have heard it from their fans. Empty gestures are just that empty gestures. Anyone with more then a couple neurons to rub together know that Nintendo isn't doing dick about its third party situation. Well nothing more then what they usually do. That being next to nothing. Does anyone seriously harbor the illusion that Nintendo genuinely sought advice from third parties while they were designing their console. Hell do you even think they came up with a plan to make them more successful to get them on board.

Nintendo treats third parties like they are the enemy, and they bully them whenever they can. While Microsoft and Sony dote on them hand and foot. Is it any wonder they prefer those two to Nintendo. If Nintendo were genuinely interested in repairing their image with third parties. They would be doing the same things Microsoft and Sony do to get them and keep them. Why should they go up against a eight hundred pound gorilla that has rigged the game in its favor.

Haha what? If I was "happy" with your claim I never would have responded in the first place. But, you just assume that because it fits with your delusional narrative that your trying to spin that Nintendo fans always say that they won't buy a 3rd party game if even if was coming to Wii U after it gets announced it woun't be coming to Wii U. Go to google and search Bayonetta 2 Wii U, and there's all the proof you need. So where's your source?

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Good to know that some people remove parts like the following one (which is included in the original) on PURPOSE.

Is it that there are too few Wii U owners?

- Yes, it actually does it, says Sundberg to press four.

User base is therefore too small to Avalanche will take the risk of making a game for the Wii U. There are several examples of this kind of skepticism among developers.


So they basically have no games  because the userbase is to small. But OF COURSE thats not mentioned....

You should probably take that up with PixelEnemy rather than Somini.