I don't really have any sources other than my own experiences.  I would be interested if someone could provide sources to the contrary though.

Almost every household I knew that had a Wii also purchased an Xbox or PS3.  I know a few households with multiple Xboxes (and live, to play online simultaneously).  It just seems like Wii, and POSSIBLY the Wii U, carve out their own niche.  You buy the Wii U to play your Mario Karts, Marios, Zeldas, etc. and buy one of the other two to play ALL the 3rd party games, and some exclusives too.  Obviously, to be all encompasing, you need to have all 3.

Granted, some of that Wii crowd was STRICTLY a past non-gamer who was ONLY sucked in because of the draw of motion control.  They most likely will not return.  That being said, I think that number is heavily over estimated by some.  I think there will be many people returning for more mario, mario kart, etc. once the price becomes a little more compelling.  And lets face it, the Wii U DOES try something different yet again (tablet), which everyone simply writes off.

I truely believe that price means everything for all these manufacturers, Sony, M, and Nintendo.  Of course some games too, espesially system sellers like Mario Kart.  If Nintendo releases Mario Kart AND a price cut, and the system continues to struggle... well, then you can all start to panic and/or write off the Wii U.  

SIMPLE EXAMPLE.  The Wii U is now $5.  Do you go and buy one?  Also, the PS4 costs $999 on release.  Do you buy one?  Obviously extremes, but my point is $$$ matters.

Wow, what a silly post. Because I think the ps3 will sell more than 8mil this year apparently I think everything Nintendo will fail... Thank you. Thank you so much

Maybe you will grow up and act more mature and actually reply with decent agruments instead of acting like a stuborn kid who cries out for attention. I can only hope that you're lying about you age. Let's see if you make it to a month on these forums with that attitude.

So now your saying graphics can't get any better then current gen and we will never see a big leap in graphics ever again? Dude why do you think MS and Sony are even releasing a new console? Also did you see the Killzone 4 demo? If that was a early build then I can't wait to see what next gen console games will look like 3 years from now. 

G911turbo brings up a VERY important point again that I raised in my original post in this thread. Both the PS4 and 720 are going to struggle to sell worse than the Wii U has done during the launch window due to much higher price points.

The latest rumour, which sounds credible, is that the 720 is going to have 2 SKUs - one priced at $299.99 with a 2 year subscription commitment to Live Gold for $15 per month so you're looking at $660 in total and the second SKU being $499.99 without the Live Gold commitment so you'll need to add the Live Gold subscription, which you should be able to pick up much cheaper.

Then you've got Sony continuing to ignore what made the PS2 so successful and what's made the PS3, PSP and Vita less successful. They've gone for an expensive and powerful box again - a console with 8GB of GDDR5 and a GPU pushing 1.8TFlops isn't going to be cheap before you even start to think about the controller and dual cameras in the camera bar. We'll probably be looking at $499.99 for the PS4 too.

And if that wasn't enough to cause them both problems given the current financial climate, both consoles are going to be supply constrained even if they do sell.

And then you've got the possibility of the rumours of always online and no used games for the 720 being true which I know, going by the reactions on various other forums I frequent, is going to be a dealbreaker for a fair few people.

yes, i've seen it. incredible graphics but no big leap from what we have right now because that's simply not possible.

also, go put words on the mouth of others. i didn't say graphics CAN'T get better, however they already reached a level of quality where diminishing returns starts to kick in. it will take lot's of extra processing power for a final result to look only marginaly better.

Lets just assume the engineers at Sony know what the hell they are doing when they chose to stuff 8 gigs of very expensive ram in there. Keep in mind the ps4 uses a new type of APU that takes the unified ram priciple to a whole new level.

Name me one Wii-U, ps3 or Xbox game that even comes close? I never seen anything like that opening scene with the huge city vista to be honest, not even on pc and that is just a launch game. I think you will be shocked at E3 when they show the good stuff.

Hmm.....this topic seems silly to me at this point. Two of the three consoles aren't released, and one of them still isn't even formally announced yet. We have no idea how the new Xbox and PS4 will be received when they launch, and how they will sell.

You do realize the first wave of games of ps3/360 looked slightly better than ps2 games... right? Gears of War was the first graphically impressive game on the system (even though it was still clunky and ugly) and that released a year after 360 launch. For the ps3 Uncharted was a year later too but still had some performance problems

You really dont know what youre talking about