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pokoko on 20 April 2013
curl-6 said:
pokoko said:
No offense, but this seems like an odd comparison. Is there a reason for it?

Curious since the PSP was so much more powerful than the original DS, and while people seem happy to bash the Wii U for not being as powerful as PS4, I haven't heard the 3DS get similar flak for not being as powerful as Vita.

Handhelds almost never get multiplatform games so relative power really isn't that big of a deal.



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Otakumegane on 20 April 2013
curl-6 said:
pokoko said:
No offense, but this seems like an odd comparison. Is there a reason for it?

Curious since the PSP was so much more powerful than the original DS, and while people seem happy to bash the Wii U for not being as powerful as PS4, I haven't heard the 3DS get similar flak for not being as powerful as Vita.

Well the 3DS is selling. Can't really argue with really good sales and a soon to be massive game library.

(Not I said good and not great. Could be better.)



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curl-6 on 20 April 2013
pokoko said:
curl-6 said:
pokoko said:
No offense, but this seems like an odd comparison. Is there a reason for it?

Curious since the PSP was so much more powerful than the original DS, and while people seem happy to bash the Wii U for not being as powerful as PS4, I haven't heard the 3DS get similar flak for not being as powerful as Vita.

Handhelds almost never get multiplatform games so relative power really isn't that big of a deal.

Same could be said of Nintendo consoles these days... :P
Not trolling, but honestly, who buys a Nintendo system primarily for the third party multiplats? It's all about the first/second party exclusives.



ToraTiger on 20 April 2013
curl-6 said:
pokoko said:
curl-6 said:
pokoko said:
No offense, but this seems like an odd comparison. Is there a reason for it?

Curious since the PSP was so much more powerful than the original DS, and while people seem happy to bash the Wii U for not being as powerful as PS4, I haven't heard the 3DS get similar flak for not being as powerful as Vita.

Handhelds almost never get multiplatform games so relative power really isn't that big of a deal.

Same could be said of Nintendo consoles these days... :P
Not trolling, but honestly, who buys a Nintendo system primarily for the third party multiplats? It's all about the first/second party exclusives.

Sometimes First/second party isn't enough.  I'd love to play Skyrim or Mass effect oN Wii two years back, but it didn't get either.  I don't expect lots of 3rd party from Wii U, but I guess it should be better than Wii.

If Nintendo release 30 good first party games in Wii U's life, then all will be forgiven. 



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Kaizar on 20 April 2013
curl-6 said:
Kaizar said:
curl-6 said:
Kaizar said:
Otakumegane said:

PSP GC and 3DS are close, but 3DS has more modern techniques.

Powerwise, def behind the Xbox though.


The 3DS has a 400 MHz GPU vs. the Wii 243 MHz GPU.

The 3DS on pre-install firmware has its CPU clocked at twice the clock speed of the Wii CPU. Plus the 3DS has a 2010 CPU, while the Wii has a 2005 CPU, so the 3DS can process probably 8 times as much as the Wii on Firmware 1.0.0-0.

MHz are not an accurate measure of power between different architectures. I don't believe for a second that the 3DS CPU is eight times more powerful than the Wii's. The 3DS CPU may be newer, but on the other hand as a handheld component it has to be smaller and consume less power, which limits its power relative to a console CPU.


Well, I do know that the 3DS on firmware 1.0.0-0 has its 2-core CPU underclock at 800 MHz a core, while the Wii has a 729 MHz single core CPU.

Plus the Wii CPU is a 2005 CPU, while the 3DS CPU is a 2010 CPU.

But the 3DS CPU has to run off a small amount of power, take up less space, and run cooler because there's no room for a fan, all of which can significantly reduce its raw processing output. The Wii CPU didn't have these constraints.

The DS lite could last 20 hours and that came out in 2006 I believe.

Anyways the GPU at 400 MHz is consuming 0.5 Hz to 1 Hz. And in order to handle GPU at 400 MHz, it clearly would require a much more powerful CPU then the Wii (which can only handle GPU clock as high as 250 to 270 MHz). Plus the 3DS has a 2-core 1.8 GHz CPU underclock at 800 MHz.

Plenty of other users already know that the 3DS has its CPU clock at twice the speed as the Wii.

Plus the 3DS is the first Nintendo Handheld ever made for maximum battery life, like an iPad. The previous Nintendo Handhelds were NOT made with big battery life in mind at all.



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ethomaz on 20 April 2013

Overall the same or 3DS because the more modern GPU tech... PSP have advantages in some areas and 3DS in anothers.

And 3DS have to render two different screens so the games in PSP can look better because that.



Kaizar on 20 April 2013
FrancisNobleman said:
By playing Resident Evil Revelations and Mario 3D Land I got the "generational leap" impression, with other titles not so much.

Anyway I sold it just before the price drop was announced. I'm waiting on the "3DSi" to jump wagon again.


Here's the order:

Original - Lite - i - XL

They skipped the Lite & i, and went straight the XL.

They already have multiple cameras.

So there is NO i, and you know it.



Conina on 20 April 2013
Kaizar said:

The 3DS 2D resolution is 800 x 240 vs. the PSP 2D resolution of 480 x 272.

Which 3DS games actually switch to native 800 x 240 when you turn off the 3d effect?

Most of them stay in 400 x 240



Kaizar on 20 April 2013
ethomaz said:

Overall the same or 3DS because the more modern GPU tech... PSP have advantages in some areas and 3DS in anothers.

And 3DS have to render two different screens so the games in PSP can look better because that.


The 3DS has its GPU clocked at 400 MHz, while the Wii can only handle GPU no higher then 250 MHz clock speed, because of its weaker CPU.



Kaizar on 20 April 2013
brendude13 said:
DieAppleDie said:
Kaizar and its super accurate spec data strike again xD

It's pretty hard to compare the consoles when you can't get the full specs on them. Comparing cores and clock speeds isn't very accurate either.

I'll expand on what Otakugemane did, trying to put the consoles in order of power, and add more in.

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The 3DS CPU can handle GPU at 400 MHz on pre-install firmware, while the Wii CPU (729 MHz) can only handle GPU at 250 MHz and has it max clock at 243 MHz.

The GameCube has a 194 MHz GPU.

To sum up:

DS < PSP < PS2 < GC < Wii < 3DS

Thats the gap.